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U.S. Lists Web Sites as Terrorist Organizations (pg. 2)
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spankster
State terrorism is still terrorism. |
No, state terrorism is war. |
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| Flotser |
| quote: | Originally posted by ResonantDrag
does that mean that palestinian's aren't afraid when tanks and gunships invade their neighborhood?
d00d, just because we modify the definition of terrorism to fit our experiences, doesn't mean that we don't actually commit wrongful acts against other populations. i'm sorry if you feel victimized, but to assume that the palestinians have the same means of retaliation as the israelis is naive and stupid. a minority populaton has no way to fight a conventional war, and (not saying i agree) the measures inacted by the israel resistance groups are the only way they've devised to fight back.
i know it's easier to view the world in tunnel vision, but there are multiple perspectives to try to understand. just because you feel you're right, don't judge others by your own convictions:whip: |
tell me this,
do you feel terrorized when poplice is using helicopters and guns to stop crime? no.
However,if you were a criminial or if you were hiding a criminal in your house, you woud feel terrorized.
The israeli army is fighting terrorists and has to use armored vechicles simply because the PLO is not doing the police job,even though they were given weapons and money for this cause back in Oslo, and still are getting.
the thing is, palestinian terror IS targeted on cevilians to make them feel terrorized. the israeli govermnet, on the other hand, is fighting crime (terror). sad, but in fight, in a war, also civilians are killed and injured. |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
No, state terrorism is war. |
One of the worlds strongest military's VS. Rocks and human time bombs. Nice war:rolleyes: |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by Flotser
tell me this,
do you feel terrorized when poplice is using helicopters and guns to stop crime? no. |
Because the police here dont strike down missiles into crowded neighborhoods when they spot a criminal, they use a very bright search light or heat senor camera.. then arrest him!
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However,if you were a criminial or if you were hiding a criminal in your house, you woud feel terrorized.
The israeli army is fighting terrorists and has to use armored vechicles simply because the PLO is not doing the police job,even though they were given weapons and money for this cause back in Oslo, and still are getting.
the thing is, palestinian terror IS targeted on cevilians to make them feel terrorized. the israeli govermnet, on the other hand, is fighting crime (terror). sad, but in fight, in a war, also civilians are killed and injured. |
STATE TERROR ALSO TARGETS INNOCENT CIVILIANS... I HAVE ALREADY PROVEN THAT BEFORE HERE! many people have been shot and killed right in the head.....including children. If you are going to deny that the IDF dont kill civilian, then Israel has a very good propaganda machine churning. |
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| Izzy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
STATE TERROR ALSO TARGETS INNOCENT CIVILIANS... I HAVE ALREADY PROVEN THAT BEFORE HERE! |
no you havent. i dare you to prove that the israeli state targets innocent civilians. |
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| Flotser |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
Because the police here dont strike down missiles into crowded neighborhoods when they spot a criminal, they use a very bright search light or heat senor camera.. then arrest him!
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ofcurse. thats exactly what the palestinian security forces were established for. but if those forces do nothing to stop the terror and fight this crime, than Israli forces are unfortunatly ought to do that. but how can you expect Israeli forces to go inside those crowded cities and simply "arrest him" using only "a bright flash light". (there are units like this in the israeli army, but they only can arrest and run away, many times it ends up taking their lives, this method is not that efficiant as a true security force that insures law, order and stability).
so what i was saying, IDF is not a suicedal army, so to accplish various missions there is also a use in tanks and aircraft.
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STATE TERROR ALSO TARGETS INNOCENT CIVILIANS... I HAVE ALREADY PROVEN THAT BEFORE HERE! many people have been shot and killed right in the head.....including children. If you are going to deny that the IDF dont kill civilian, then Israel has a very good propaganda machine churning. |
I dont deny that the IDF is killing civilians, also wont deny its killing innocent civillians.
however, it NEVER EVER TARGETS those innocent\law keeping civillians, never! civilians are getting killed or by mistake while attacking terrorists, or when those civilians are participating in violent actions that leave no choise to the soldiers. |
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| TranceGiant |
| I wonder when I'll regain the motivation to join this running-in-circles :o |
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| Flotser |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceGiant
I wonder when I'll regain the motivation to join this running-in-circles :o |
i joined it only few days ago,
its fun, come along :):wtf: |
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| Spankster |
| Talking to zionist sympathizers is like banging ur head on a wall.:stongue: |
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| Yoepus |
heheh,
I went to one of the websites listed as a terror org:
http://kahane.org/home.htm
On it they write in their sub-header, "Kahane.org: a terror designated website"
At least Jewish terrorist groups still have a sense of humor :D |
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by Spankster
Talking to zionist sympathizers is like banging ur head on a wall.:stongue: |
they might explain why your brain dead :p :toothless hehe, couldn't resist |
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| Spankster |
| quote: | Originally posted by Flotser
ofcurse. thats exactly what the palestinian security forces were established for. but if those forces do nothing to stop the terror and fight this crime, than Israli forces are unfortunatly ought to do that. |
Hmmmmm.............then why did the IDF go on a bombing spree taking out PLO security networks last year and before that, thus crippling their ability to do their jobs?
Arafat doesnt have the resources to take on groups like hamas.......its hamas who carry the big stick in palestinian neighborhoods not arafats posse.
I remember approx 16 months ago arafats security wing were having gun battles with hamas and even arrested their spiritual leader(even though it was extremely brief) when they had the resources.
You blame Arafats security wing for not reigning in terror groups yet it was sharon that rendered them useless. |
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