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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by tathi
have we got a list of the use by dates on some of this machinary? and a comparison of how many weapons of mass destruction each country in the area owns? money going into military research and development? no flamage just interested
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Israel is most certainly a first rate military force. The Israeli Military Industries is one of the best defense contractors in the world and they are transitioning over to their own Israeli built weaponry from foreign imports. Although they still primarily rely on American jets for their airforce (i believe), their merkava tank program is quite impressive. Not only is their technology better than their neighbors but their tactics and training are excellent as well. Even if another united Arab aggression were to occur, it's unlikely that Israel would be beaten on the battlefield. However, Egypt is rapidly advancing their own military by purchasing M1A1 Abrams tanks and even has a few production factories in Egypt in a deal with the US. With respect to weapons of mass destruction, Israel has nuclear weapons, and pretty much all parties have chemical/biological weapons. Syria most probably has them, and Egypt most certainly has them as evidenced by their use in their war against Yemen (HA how many people know that???). |
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| Arbiter |
A man goes to the market to buy a loaf of bread.
For some reason, the cheapest loaf of bread costs $5.
"That's bull" he says.
So instead of paying for the bread, he steals it.
However, he gets caught stealing, and is fined $1000.
The next day, he returns to the market
The price of bread is now $10.
"That's bull" he says.
"Besides, these jackasses cost me $1000 yesterday," he says.
So instead of paying for the bread, he steals it.
However, he gets caught stealing, and is fined $1000.
This is the terrorist mentality. It should come as no surprise that they would exhibit this kind of irrational behavior. |
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| DaveSaenz |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
Ya, I'm curious what do you think of my conspiracy theory? :D Or should I wait for Vesa and a neo-con edition? |
I enjoyed it thoroughly.:)
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Hmmm now that I mention that, the irony of the most holiest of places being the most violent of places makes one think. |
LOL I've realized that same irony. Irony's a bitch ain't she?:D :wtf:
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
and pretty much all parties have chemical/biological weapons. Syria most probably has them, and Egypt most certainly has them as evidenced by their use in their war against Yemen (HA how many people know that???). |
Not I! But Faux news didn't shove it down my throat (since Egypt is our ally), so that's probably why. |
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| tathi |
wow Arbiter, brilliant powers of deduction, the analogy cleared it all up for me
A government goes to the gaza strip to murder some "terrorists"
Collatoral damage includes 10 civilians, (a small price to pay for "justice")
relatives of the civilians see this government murdering their people and say "That's bull"
So instead of letting a powerful and oppressive government pillage and murder their people, they decide to fight back
this government then retaliates more people die, so more people decide to take "justice" into their own hands etc etc
and they all lived happily ever after
| quote: | Arbit
This is the terrorist mentality. It should come as no surprise that they would exhibit this kind of irrational behavior. |
If you find a "terrorists" mentality so predictable that you can anticipate their future moves, what will break the cycle of violence? Perhaps another completely irrational incursion into Palestine? Are you capable of rational thought arbiter? I'd hate to see someone with such a talent for creating colourful analogies to be divulged as an ignorant hypocrite. Your apothegm is completely devoid of logic, and quite irrational, therefore you must be a terrorist!!
| quote: | Echo
I could probably find a site that says Danish girls are the hottest sexiest things on the planet. That doesn't mean it is true. |
terrorism is also within the eye of the beholder, and is as aesthetic and subjective to individual bias as beauteousness
one persons freedom fighter is another persons terrorist |
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| tathi |
| quote: | Occrid
I'm not right wing!!!! LOL! |
you're not? :conf:
| quote: | Occrider
Egypt most certainly has them as evidenced by their use in their war against Yemen (HA how many people know that???). |
ya, it was on the news ;p |
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Although they still primarily rely on American jets for their airforce (i believe), their merkava tank |
Ya, actually Israel has made their own aircraft, the Kfir most notablly - but is very dated, comparable to a phantom F4. There was also a recent proposal for Israel to create a new modern jet, and Israel create a couple prototypes of these - it was basically the result of stealing the French plans for their planes.
Israel however as it saw, can't afford to make its own aircraft - unless it exports them by the masses. It will have to let the superpowers, or those that pretend to be (the French) try and do it instead.
As for perhaps the point Echo Silence was getting at.
Yes the Israeli army is probably the best army in the middle east - but it's not the largest. These are two different thing. I will concede their superiority - but their superiority is never a garuntee, unless Israel works to maintain this military superiority it will be overcome, and put Israel in dire straights. The Arabs have numbers, and they have money (think oil). The Jews have brains. :D
As for Tahti, you can't find any info on weapons of mass destructions in the region - as all countries in the region officially claim they don't have any or are very ambigious about it. There are estimates Israel has 100 - 200 nuclear weapons, I've heard reports that Egypt might have 1 or 2, but I don't know how authentic this is.
As for who has a more modern military, I would wager my bet honestly on Egypt, who has been purchasing almost entirely new equipement from the Americans for the past well, long time. Israel has new equipment yes, but even they can't afford to upgrade all their machinary. For instance, out of the 500+ planes in the Israel Airforce, I think only around 15-30 are F15s, the bulk of the fighter wing consisting of out dated, reserve, F4s. |
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by tathi
you're not? :conf:
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What just because he said he's pro-Israel means he has to be right wing?:conf:
Oh wait, you do have a point nevermind... ;) :D :toothless |
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| Chuck Norris |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
Since the Palestinians have no intelligence (:D ) I ruled them out.
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You , that is the most pathetic racist generalisation i've seen thus far.
If the Palestinians are so stupid and Israelies are so intelligent surely Israel would have figured out a way to resolve this "war on terror". |
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| tathi |
well rational thought dictates that anyone that disagrees with me is right wing...
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by Chuck Norris
You , that is the most pathetic racist generalisation i've seen thus far.
If the Palestinians are so stupid and Israelies are so intelligent surely Israel would have figured out a way to resolve this "war on terror". |
No you misunderstood me.. I meant the Palestinians have no intelligence services... (and compartively speaking to real intelligence angencies they don't) read it in context.:rolleyes: :D
go back and use your showerhead:toothless |
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| DaveSaenz |
| quote: | Originally posted by tathi
wow Arbiter, brilliant powers of deduction, the analogy cleared it all up for me
A government goes to the gaza strip to murder some "terrorists"
Collatoral damage includes 10 civilians, (a small price to pay for "justice")
relatives of the civilians see this government murdering their people and say "That's bull"
So instead of letting a powerful and oppressive government pillage and murder their people, they decide to fight back
this government then retaliates more people die, so more people decide to take "justice" into their own hands etc etc
and they all lived happily ever after
If you find a "terrorists" mentality so predictable that you can anticipate their future moves, what will break the cycle of violence? Perhaps another completely irrational incursion into Palestine? Are you capable of rational thought arbiter? I'd hate to see someone with such a talent for creating colourful analogies to be divulged as an ignorant hypocrite. Your apothegm is completely devoid of logic, and quite irrational, therefore you must be a terrorist!!
terrorism is also within the eye of the beholder, and is as aesthetic and subjective to individual bias as beauteousness
one persons freedom fighter is another persons terrorist |
Hey as long as gas prices are cheap enough that I can afford to drive my Hummer to the supermarket...:P
| quote: | Originally posted by tathi
well rational thought dictates that anyone that disagrees with me is right wing...
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| quote: | Originally posted by tathi
kill all of the extremists |
Hehe. Irony's a bitch. ;) |
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by tathi
blah blah blah fancy word blah blah blah Arbiter you mofo you! |
You'll have to forgive him about that. He does this to all Pro-Israelis that enter this forum. He assumes that they are all like melech_mike and have no content or intelligence to them. Its just a temporary thing, no worries.
Just think of it as your tahti initation ritual:D |
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