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y is it that burnt cd's sound shit in clubs?
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| Unknown DJ |
hi. im yet to spin at a club, but i have cd decks as well as turntables and they sound good through my system, but ive herd alot of ppl say 192k on a club system would sound . y is this? what makes it sound so ? how bad does it really sound? and what bit rate would sound good?
thanks in advance :) |
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| bramcom |
i think because the music is being played really loud and hard. So the bass would be to hard that it sounds like sh*t. Anyway i think you should confirm your own files to wav (if you produce yourself) and dont make them to mp3. If you convert them first to mp3 (192) and then to wav, you already lost all your quality. Or if you made a bootleg/mash up with mp3's it would also sound like sh*t when you used mp3's for them. Always use wav or original songs is what ive learned when im making mash ups for the local clubs :-)
regards,
Bram.. |
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| SgtFoo |
the algorithm behind compressed MP3 files takes away the inaudible frequencies in the music that the human ear cannot hear (our range of hearing is from about 20Hz to 20kHz). CDs and vinyls and .wav files all have those extra frequencies outisde of our hearing range that beef up the sound wuality in a club. an MP3 file has nothing under 40Hz usually, and so there's nothing to drive the low-end and sub-woofers at the club, so you have to ride your low-end eq on your mixer or final outline eq. You'll also notice that the hihats frizzle out at the top end of the frequency range and that just sounds like on hi-quality club-size tweeters.
(aaahhh... education pays of) |
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| Freak |
as he said
(have a degree in this gubbins but that about sums it up)
One of the reasons i rarely play downloaded stuff unless its impossible to get hold of or im not sent it |
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| VIO |
| i play mp3s in clubs and they sound fine. of course i do run them through a spectral enhancer first. |
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| mikefasssy |
| quote: | Originally posted by VIO
i play mp3s in clubs and they sound fine. of course i do run them through a spectral enhancer first. |
If you don't mind me asking, what the f*ck is that? |
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| VIO |
| it's a plug-in i run in wavelab. it's like an eq but the logarithms it uses are much more complex. it has the ability to "open up" whatever frequencies you want. it affects the stereo imaging, the phasing of the channels, the eq and a bit more. it's really nice. it can make a track sound "bigger", more realistic, more alive. |
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| razzi |
| whoa. hook me up with some of that . sounds good to me |
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| starglider |
| quote: | Originally posted by VIO
it's a plug-in i run in wavelab. it's like an eq but the logarithms it uses are much more complex. it has the ability to "open up" whatever frequencies you want. it affects the stereo imaging, the phasing of the channels, the eq and a bit more. it's really nice. it can make a track sound "bigger", more realistic, more alive. |
Fair enough, but the bottom line is when you compress to mp3, you're losing part of the original audio -- no plug-in can restore that. |
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| Gluegun |
Actually, compared to a well-ripped .wav, it's impossible to get an mp3 to sound *exactly* like the .wav...
Lots of you have high quality recording sound cards (ie, ones from M-Audio or Terratec and the like...)
Take some CD's, rip them into .wav's with Exact Audio Copy, and try encoding them at different bitrates with different mp3 codec's... and then listen to them with some studio monitoring speakers or headphones (the Sennheiser HD280's are a great, inexpensive studio monitoring/dj headphone), and pay attention to the high notes... even with a 320 kbps mp3 encoded with LAME, the best encoder, and play it back on Foobar2000, you *should* be able to tell the difference with the hihats... the fact is, mp3 throws away audible data. Period. |
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| b i n k u n |
Pretty much what everyone else has said here but one more thing...
Mp3 compression has a very distinct sound, you all notice it when listening to internet radio at like 64k or something. along with dropping frequencies outside 20-20k Hz, it also drops out sounds that are too soft and it deems it unnecessary. So in just the midrange, (not gonna mention the hi's and lo's since it already has been) you'll notice the dynamic range has been compressed and there's a distinct noise to it. not noise as in distortion, but since everything has been mashed down, it's no longer crisp. you can even tell the difference between a mp3 @ 320 kbps and a real wav. but that's usually on studio monitors. as for in a club, its truly the bass range that craps out and gives it away that you're listening to an mp3. there's no rumble from the subs and there's something missing in the air.
oh well, my two cents. back to studying i go. :P |
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| xKaoSx |
Freak-
Do you have a link to that video thats in your avatar?
That thing cracks me the up.
Thanks |
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