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Dean's new economic proposal
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| MisterOpus1 |
Alright you crazy capitalists, here's some new ammo for you:
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washingtonpost.com
Opponents Assail Dean's Economic Proposal
By Jim VandeHei
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, November 20, 2003; Page A04
DAVENPORT, Iowa, Nov. 19 -- Former Vermont governor Howard Dean's proposal to re-regulate key sectors of the U.S. economy prompted criticism Wednesday from two rivals for the Democratic presidential nomination, who charged that Dean is turning his back on the economic policies of the Clinton administration and would usher in a new era of big government.
"He would give us a treacherous trifecta of policies that turn back the economic clock: new trade barriers, a larger tax burden on our middle class and now bigger bureaucracy," Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman (Conn.) said in a statement. "Either he doesn't know how to turn the economy around, or this is another reckless mistake."
Retired Army Gen. Wesley K. Clark, in one of his most direct criticisms of Dean, called the proposal "a major departure from the proven economic strategy" of the Clinton administration. "You can't win a general election if you abandon the very proven policies that were the cornerstone of our party's success," Clark said in a statement.
In an interview Monday night, Dean unveiled his idea to "re-regulate" utilities, large media companies and businesses offering employee stock options. He also favors broad protections for workers, including the right to unionize.
"This is an area where the differences between the choices Howard Dean and I would make for the country are clear," Clark said. But exactly what those differences are was not clear. Clark said he, too, favors clamping down on media ownership and imposing new regulations. "I agree that we need far stronger protections for workers, consumers and our environment going beyond where the Clinton administration went in several respects, as times and circumstances have changed, too."
As for the criticism, Dean spokesman Jay Carson said: "If Democrats in this race want to side with big corporations over regular people, that's their choice. Howard Dean is going to grow the economy and reestablish the trust of the American people."
© 2003 The Washington Post Company
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| biznology |
Hmm havent been following Dean since the Metrosexual comment...but this would explain the support he is getting around campus.
i dont think im a 'crazy capitalist' in the fact he is just acknowledgine that neoliberal globalization is hurting as much as it is helping in some areas. yet he is prolly just turning away more voters than attracting them.
its a pretty sad state of affairs when a candidate with new ideas actually gets chastized for not being a 'true Democrat' whatever that may be| |
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| occrider |
No comment :)
Go Clark! |
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| biznology |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
No comment :)
Go Clark! |
whys that? cause hes a cryer? :toothless |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by biznology
whys that? cause hes a cryer? :toothless |
Hehe yes that and he seems to be the least big government democrat out of the lot ;). And he's an economist! That automatically earns my vote heh. |
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| DaveSaenz |
Here's my newest prediction:
Dean can't win as long as this keeps happening (especially on US targets) with the frequency it has been since Bush is seen to take a tough stand against terrorism. Perhaps in a state of peace Dean might have a chance, but not now. Clark, the former general, is the only man who can beat Bush in November. I hope the dems make the right decision as much as I like Dean. |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveSaenz
Here's my newest prediction:
Dean can't win as long as this keeps happening (especially on US targets) with the frequency it has been since Bush is seen to take a tough stand against terrorism. Perhaps in a state of peace Dean might have a chance, but not now. Clark, the former general, is the only man who can beat Bush in November. I hope the dems make the right decision as much as I like Dean. |
I don't think it helps Clark that he was fired for 'character issues'. Though the media hasn't really given much coverage to that for whatever their reasons may be. |
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| NYCTrancefan |
| I actually like Clark as a candidate for the Democrats, my only problem is can he catch up to Dean over the long haul and obtain the nomination. On the issue of terrorism and image in America he has the military background to call on to hold his own on that front. Only time will tell though, as to how his campaign evolves. Like alot of his ideas though. |
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| rizen |
| quote: | | In an interview Monday night, Dean unveiled his idea to "re-regulate" utilities, large media companies and businesses offering employee stock options. He also favors broad protections for workers, including the right to unionize. |
YES! de-regulation didnt help my state, it actually ripped billions from us.
| quote: | | As for the criticism, Dean spokesman Jay Carson said: "If Democrats in this race want to side with big corporations over regular people, that's their choice. Howard Dean is going to grow the economy and reestablish the trust of the American people." |
anything against big corporations I'm onboard :D A great thing that Davis actually did do, was to make any state purchases from small businesses first, before shopping at big corporation.
I really hope Dean wins, maybe I should start praying to god, even though he doesnt care :( |
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| NYCTrancefan |
| quote: | Originally posted by rizen
YES! de-regulation didnt help my state, it actually ripped billions from us.
anything against big corporations I'm onboard :D A great thing that Davis actually did do, was to make any state purchases from small businesses first, before shopping at big corporation.
I really hope Dean wins, maybe I should start praying to god, even though he doesnt care :( |
I agree with you about the large corporations, just hope that Dean is one politician who would keep his word to deal with these (Thievery Inc.) that bring ruin to many who are unaware of where their investments, tax dollars or elected politicians are ending up. I honestly could not imagine being an Enron employee who lost their whole livelihood from these people such as Ken Lay with their greed and mismanagement. More importantly what exactly happened to the regulatory agencies that were responsible for protecting investors from these scandals, but that is another discussion. |
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| occrider |
| Don't confuse the merits of deregulation with the errors of how derregulation is implemented. |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Don't confuse the merits of deregulation with the errors of how derregulation is implemented. |
I will grant you this - what is more common at least for me, is hearing about the faultiness of deregulation. California, Enron, WTO and IMF's failed policies with other countries (Argentina for ex.), NAFTA, 1996 Telecommunications Act, etc. etc.
So I ask you this: can you give me sound examples in which deregulation has actually been productive to a society as a whole? And I ask not out of skepticism (okay, maybe there's a little bit there), but more from a lack of knowledge. |
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