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| Malhiotface |
| Okay, I am okay at beat matching but how do you make the actual mix itself sound good. Is it best to only have the base out of the song you are bringing in or all three base, treb, and mid. Then when you bring in the song is it best to take the volume a little more than half way in and slowly take it to full volume or take it all the way to full volume. Now the song you are taking out I know to take the base out some when you put the base in on the incoming track, but do you leave the treb and mid at full volume while you take it out or do you take them out at different times. The only reason I am posting this thread is because allot times when I am mixing and I am bringing the next song in ( even though the songs are perfectly beat matched) the mix ends up sounding like a bunch of noise and I can't distinguish between what sound belongs to what track. Other times what I do is I take the volume of the song that I am taking out down to about half way up or a little more on the mixer so I do not get so much noise, but the result of that is that I can not hear it even just a little bit. Hopefully I am making some sense. I would like to have my mixing sound as good as some of the pros. ie Armin, Jon Bir and many others. Here again I have beat matching down pretty well, but some advise on what to do with the base, mid, treb, and volume of the songs would be greatly appreciated. Thanks! |
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| IKKI-ZUVK |
First of all do not try to copy any other DJ, create your own style.
You need to start working with EQ to make the mix sound right, the only way to learn about EQ is by practicing every single day, it's kinda of like beatmatching, you only learn how to do by practicing all the time.
Another important thing about mixing is to learn how to gradually change your temple range throughout a set (be careful with the notes)as an example +4 is the average of about one note higher in terms of the pitch , which means if yo play a vocal record at +8 it's 2 notes higher , so it probably sounds really horrible .
To get faster you might have a record that's 130, the next one is 132 and so on , if you drastically speed something up from 130 to 134 , ppl won't actually love what're doing
Ohhh You also need to learn HARMONIC MIX (by key) .
Hope it helps
Cheers |
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| wushuboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by IKKI-ZUVK
as an example +4 is the average of about one note higher in terms of the pitch , which means if yo play a vocal record at +8 it's 2 notes higher , so it probably sounds really horrible .
To get faster you might have a record that's 130, the next one is 132 and so on , if you drastically speed something up from 130 to 134 , ppl won't actually love what're doing
Hope it helps
Cheers |
You SOOOOOOOOOOO copied this from the pvd article in Remix magazine. :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: |
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| IKKI-ZUVK |
| lol i know , i just wanted to help him ! |
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| wushuboy |
| give credit where credit is due. |
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| Dj Thy |
First of all you're saying two times the same thing basically. Harmonic mixing is just ensuring the key stays right.
And to be exact, 5.9% equals a semitone change, not 4%. But usually, you'll need less to notice something sounds wrong. I'd say for most people, 2 or 3% at most |
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| Shad0wmaster |
| only one way to make your mixing sound nice: hammering your EQs. ;) |
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| Dj Thy |
Not necessarily. Some people (including me on some styles) use minimal EQ in the mix. Sometimes a 3dB cut is all you need.
The thing is, it's not only important on how you proceed in the mix (levels, EQ, etc...), but also WHEN you make the mix. Like in another recent post I replied, phrase matching is equally important. If you mix both tunes when they are at full power, it's irremediably going to clash, as there's too much going on at the same time. And even EQ'ing won't solve that problem. Try to spend some time at finding out exactly when you have to throw in the new tune. If that is good, you'll see you'll have to do much less effort to make it sound right. |
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| conk |
| you don't absolutely need to use ur eq to its full potential everytime u mix. if i have a song im mixing out of with a full rolling bassline, and the song im bringing in has an even fuller one, then im obviously not going to let the two clash so i'll take it out a good portion of the mids. the hi's its pretty much the same rule, just dont let anything clash. the only constant in my eq'ing is that i kill a good amount of the bass, but i have -32db cuts on my mixer so i have to make sure it still sounds good. some songs sound even better together if u dont use the eq that much. personal experience is the best teacher tho :D |
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