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Palestinians (again) (pg. 2)
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| dj_ilan_yosef |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
The Jews were ARAB! |
They we're still Jew's! And since Judaism has been around longer than the Arab world, the Arabs were Jew's!
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I can therefor say, hey well after the JEws left, persians ruled that area. |
Jew's had never willfully "left," they we're expelled/killed!
The Jew's we're there first, they want their land... i believe they deserve it!
Anyone who came after the Jew's and "took" over the land, has as much claim to it today as the so called "palestinians" do! |
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| caddyshack |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
I agree.
This is true propaganda at its best, Palestinian propaganda.
In attempt of trying to carry this discussion in a more enlightened route however, how great do you think the effect of propaganda is on a populace?
Do you believe it has become easier to propagate a population or harder since WWII? |
I think in general it is harder because people are more aware about propaganda. But for the Palestinian people its different because as this video shows it's not propaganda only, but being taught by your parents and friendly purple dinosaurs to hate jews.
Did you notice in the video multiple kids knew the same songs? these must be songs every child learns growing up. thats insane |
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| caddyshack |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_ilan_yosef
Anyone who came after the Jew's and "took" over the land, has as much claim to it today as the so called "palestinians" do! |
:cool:
been sayin' this for years, taking control of land is how this world was built!! every country was guilty of this at some point. since isreal has only been here since 1950 it has some catching up to do... |
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| ahlamalek |
| i stopped watching it after i saw the mis-traduction of that little girl song.... how lame:rolleyes: |
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| anuneventrade |
Well, after about seven minutes of that video, I needed to watch no further.
American dollars are going towards that? :haha: Interesting...
| quote: | | But for the Palestinian people its different because as this video shows it's not propaganda only, but being taught by your parents and friendly purple dinosaurs to hate jews. |
I know, fantastic thought, isn't it?
And yes, I think we all noticed that the kids knew all of the same songs. They are probably lullaby's their parents sang to them when they were little. I don't doubt they were taught that in school, since it was showed that the one kid was commenting to a classroom! |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_ilan_yosef
They we're still Jew's! And since Judaism has been around longer than the Arab world, the Arabs were Jew's!
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What about the people that lived there before Judaism was formed?
THE INDEGINOUS POPULATIONS OF THE MIDDLE EAST?
If your trying to justify that land because you 'deserve' it after 2000 years, then i guess the natives deserve ALL their land back too. We should all leave. |
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| ahlamalek |
everyone hold your ing horses!!!
jews are the ones practicing a religion... its not a race.
in the time of the Christ and before, Arameen, Hebrews, Armenians, Caanite (sp) and others lived in the middle east. Most Hebrews and Arameen, Arabs and others were jewish (belieiving in one God).
When the Christ came, some Jews (hebrews, arameen, etc) believed in him being the son of God (later on they were called Christians).
Arabs (some polytheist, jews, christians)were tribes coming from the arabic peninsula(it was called differently at that time I guess). Their language was very similar to Hebrew and Arameen, they looked alike and I bet they could understand each other.
Anyways, Mahomet who proclaimed himself prophet arose from those southern tribes, united them and went on the conquest of the whole of the arabic peninsula and later (his sons) the middle east, he converted the masses by either asking them to surrender (islam in arabic) to God (and him) or getting killed... so then, some polytheist, some jews (hebrews, arameens and others), some christians(hebrews, arameens and others) converted to islam...
this is what you all want to know, hebrews, arameen, arabs and others were very similar people, talking the same language with different dialects... living in the same areas give or take some villages. fast forward 1500-2000 years, most arameens became christians, most arabs became muslim and most hebrew became jews... and they can barely understand each other (evolution of languages) like German and English.
who was there first?? polytheists (hebrews, arameen, arabs, etc...) then jews (hebrews, arameen, arabs, etc...) then Christians (hebrews, arameen, arabs, etc...) then muslims (hebrews, arameen, arabs, etc...)...
pretty ed up eh? :)
don't ever quote me on this... its a fast generalization to demonstrate that things evolved and changed over time. |
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| caddyshack |
| quote: | Originally posted by ahlamalek
everyone hold your ing horses!!!
jews are the ones practicing a religion... its not a race.
in the time of the Christ and before, Arameen, Hebrews, Armenians, Caanite (sp) and others lived in the middle east. Most Hebrews and Arameen, Arabs and others were jewish (belieiving in one God).
When the Christ came, some Jews (hebrews, arameen, etc) believed in him being the son of God (later on they were called Christians).
Arabs (some polytheist, jews, christians)were tribes coming from the arabic peninsula(it was called differently at that time I guess). Their language was very similar to Hebrew and Arameen, they looked alike and I bet they could understand each other.
Anyways, Mahomet who proclaimed himself prophet arose from those southern tribes, united them and went on the conquest of the whole of the arabic peninsula and later (his sons) the middle east, he converted the masses by either asking them to surrender (islam in arabic) to God (and him) or getting killed... so then, some polytheist, some jews (hebrews, arameens and others), some christians(hebrews, arameens and others) converted to islam...
this is what you all want to know, hebrews, arameen, arabs and others were very similar people, talking the same language with different dialects... living in the same areas give or take some villages. fast forward 1500-2000 years, most arameens became christians, most arabs became muslim and most hebrew became jews... and they can barely understand each other (evolution of languages) like German and English.
who was there first?? polytheists (hebrews, arameen, arabs, etc...) then jews (hebrews, arameen, arabs, etc...) then Christians (hebrews, arameen, arabs, etc...) then muslims (hebrews, arameen, arabs, etc...)...
pretty ed up eh? :)
don't ever quote me on this... its a fast generalization to demonstrate that things evolved and changed over time. |
Thanks Lazarus...:rolleyes:
hey its only a joke, chill!! |
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| ahlamalek |
| quote: | Originally posted by caddyshack
Thanks Lazarus...:rolleyes:
hey its only a joke, chill!! |
ok shaqattack:rolleyes: |
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| rizen |
| wait... you want me to watch a video from Israel National News to figure out how the Palestinians are? Damn, guess I should watch FOX News instead of indy media :rolleyes: |
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| Yoepus |
how can you watch indy media?:conf:
BTW I went to
http://www.memri.org/video/index.html
they have excerts of the Egyptian television series based on the "Protocols of Elder Zion"...
Aside from being very convincing to the simple mind (believe me I know :) ), the show gets many historical accounts outside of the antisemtic propaganda.
My two favorite parts.... "Emporer Augustus in 69BC" (when he didn't become emporer till 40,50 years later.. I don't think he was even alive in 69BC. I mean Augustus became emporer a few years after the murder of Julis Caesar, and that was at 14BC I believe)
and "US President Benjamin Franklin stopped the Jews from entering the USA when writing its constitution".
Thats true Arab television for you, conspiractic and completely untrue... they can't even get the little facts straight... just imagine watching the news...:nervous: |
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| rizen |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
how can you watch indy media?:conf: |
http://democracynow.org/ |
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