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Moroccans in Holland (pg. 2)
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| Blik |
| I stay out of this........I can imagine howyou feel djfastmp3, it wasn't very nice of Kartikeya to attack you like that........I thought that what he said was a little over the top........ |
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| FASTDJMP3 |
Ok guys i know how angry you feel and stuff . I've also exposed my point of view but it seems that no one agrees with what i said .
Let's just ask a question to ourselves : why all these problems with Moroccans in Holland ?
I don't have an answer ... but i think that if Dutch ppl accepted to work as builders , street sweepers , toilet cleaners or whatever in the 50's 60's , you won't have any of those problems . Basically u've searched the problems by yourself (i don't blame you personnaly) . And please don't tell me that some Moroccans came as fugitive . There were no political problems in the past , Morocco is not Afghanistan or any other non democratic country .
| quote: | | raoel:And even kill people because of their religion and don't accept our society |
My religion NEVER TOLD to kill someone . Please stop associating Islam with murders , terrorism or whatever !!!!!! how many times do i have to remind you that ??????? damn ...
| quote: | | Henkie:Eh ofcourse i CAN judge the people who live in my country.. im not saying that all the moroccan people are bad.. this is just about the ones who live in our country. |
I was talking about Morocco (u can't judge Morocco thru a bunch of Moroccans in Holland)
| quote: | | Henkie:Dude its not like you have to follow every rule of a religion .. although the bible says something bad about 2 guys together.. SO what?? doesnt mean they are less than heterosexual people.. Since we dutchies allready accept homosexual the people who get into our country will just have to accept that easy as that |
You are rebelling against a guy that says homosexuality is bad . What about Eminem ? i'm sure you listen to his music and don't care about his homophobic lyrics . Why ? because it's Eminem , not a Moroccan in Holland ... |
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| raoel |
| quote: | Originally posted by FASTDJMP3
My religion NEVER TOLD to kill someone . Please stop associating Islam with murders , terrorism or whatever !!!!!! how many times do i have to remind you that ??????? damn ...
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Maybe
Religion
was the wrong word.
But otherwise it is the right word.
Let me explain:
Foreigners have killed people here, because of their way of living. Their society has his own laws, just like us. But they have very radical laws. And the way of living also depends on your religion, anyway, when you are religious.
A girl I know was in a school and a other boy, who sat beside her, was killed/shot buy a boy from turkey. That jackass did it because that boy had kissed whit his girlfriend. And in turkey that is a sort of dishonour (do I say it right) and that's why he killed the guy.
I don't have problems with their religion in some ways. But sometimes I do.
Like in Irak/Iran. The women there don't have rights. They have got to mary with the boy that the parents have chosen. And the religion is involved with that.
Dutch people don't have problems with especialy marrocans
Dutch people don't say they are bad.
But it is a fact that foreigners (not only marrocans!!!!) are causing the most crimes and violence.
And that is the problem we have with them.
NOT because of religion, or if they don't adapt to our society. But just with the high rate of crimes the cause. |
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| Henkie_henk |
| quote: | Originally posted by FASTDJMP3
I was talking about Morocco (u can't judge Morocco thru a bunch of Moroccans in Holland)
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Thats what i said...
| quote: | Originally posted by FASTDJMP3
You are rebelling against a guy that says homosexuality is bad . What about Eminem ? i'm sure you listen to his music and don't care about his homophobic lyrics . Why ? because it's Eminem , not a Moroccan in Holland ...
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I am not really rebelling.. id more or less would like to kick his stupid ignorant short minded nerd ass!
Eh i dont like.. Eminem.. i think hes an whiteboy blackass wannabe..:p
Oh yeah eminem hasnt got a big group of followers he aitn responsible for soooo many people as that lamer imam loser is...
Eminem is just playing and using his fantasy like he has said in so many interviews.. that imam nerd is serious.. about AND "gays are sick in their head" AND about "All europeans are below pigs"..
You got nothing against that... |
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| xxl |
wow what a thread!! i come from the hague and i have heard (and interacted in) a lot of discussions with and without foreigners, but the thing is, if they don't adapt as quikly as we can let them adapt to our society, that's their problem and not really our problem! i think, and some with me that that's the real issue. but if "they" keep speaking about their way of living as the "allmighty" word, (..sometimes the turkish and marrocans want to push their believes and ways just a little higher than katholics and jews, like us europeans did in the midevil period) they can't quickly adapt and are sometimes a bit more ?confused? than us, because we have passed "all that " and dont really believe all nonsense that is written (hell yeah i'm a believer?) but i have seen clear examples of foreigners who have adapted and are fully intergrated etc..
so please live and let live.... peace..
but please, try to really believe in yourself first, instead of a higher thing than yourselves.
and if your in any problems with a foreigner please contact your shrink because i can't help you |
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| FASTDJMP3 |
| I want a reaction on this "but i think that if Dutch ppl accepted to work as builders , street sweepers , toilet cleaners or whatever in the 50's 60's , you won't have any of those problems " |
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| M5 |
| quote: | Originally posted by FASTDJMP3
I want a reaction on this "but i think that if Dutch ppl accepted to work as builders , street sweepers , toilet cleaners or whatever in the 50's 60's , you won't have any of those problems " |
it's very simple:
a lot of dutch men also worked as builders etc etc ....but there weren't enough of them to keep up with the growing economy....The Dutch people didn't refuse to do these jobs or something!! there was just a huge shortage! |
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| Henkie_henk |
| quote: | Originally posted by M5
it's very simple:
a lot of dutch men also worked as builders etc etc ....but there weren't enough of them to keep up with the growing economy....The Dutch people didn't refuse to do these jobs or something!! there was just a huge shortage! |
AND its not like we need NEW foreigners.. but they are still coming..
the ones who actually work arent bad at all.. the leeches are bad.. |
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| FASTDJMP3 |
| As far as i know it's the kids of those who came in the 50' and 60's that are causing trouble , not the students , not the ones who came to work ... |
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| Blik |
| yep, that's true what you just said, and it's really a major problem in here, so that could be the reason that some peeps are talking like that |
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| Miss Proximus |
I know a lot of Dutch leeches too.....out here the drug/alcohol addicts are almost entirely DUTCH people......
but I think you guys should close this pointless discussion....you're not getting anywhere |
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| Henkie_henk |
| quote: | Originally posted by Miss Proximus
I know a lot of Dutch leeches too.....out here the drug/alcohol addicts are almost entirely DUTCH people......
but I think you guys should close this pointless discussion....you're not getting anywhere |
Thats true.. this discussion wont change my view on the moroccan peepz whom live in OUR country..
woei woei! Black money - white powder.. |
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