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getting the kick and bass to make love
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Sirocco
what are some ways to get the kick and low end bass to melt with eachother. any eqing guidelines you guys have or any compression tricks etc?

-thanks!, sirocco!
dj-sean
After analyzing the frequencies on the Lange mix of Firewall - Sincere, I noticed that his kick was completely muted below 80hz (ie. had no sub-bass). By doing that, you can have a Sine wav sub-bass playing beneath the kick with no interference whatsoever, and then have whatever style of quick bassline overtop of with nothing below 200-300hz on it. Put them together and you have a really good sounding bassline.
moth
Well for starters, you need:
A) A good kick
B) A good bass synth. Mercury and Junglist are great for bass. Tritium is a free little synth that can add to bassline. If you have money, Spectrasonics Trilogy is apparently really great.

Next, you need a bass riff.

Bass usually sounds best on the offbeat, right after the kick.
With EQ just basically increase the lowend and mids a bit.

Compression is always good, and differs for different styles of music. There is a compression tutorial around here somewhere.

Also everyone knows bass should be panned to the center, and run through a mono channel, it makes it sound much better.

Some people like to add a touch of reverb to their kicks to warm them a bit, depends on the style really. I've even seen some people reverse their kicks and lower the volume to add to their kick a sort of kickback.

I dunno, im bored now, that's all from me.
moth
Nice tip Sean, didn't know that.

Are you doing a Sincere remix?
dj-sean
Nah, I just really liked the bassline sound he had so I spent a few hours dissecting it, hehe.
Sirocco
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Originally posted by dj-sean
After analyzing the frequencies on the Lange mix of Firewall - Sincere, I noticed that his kick was completely muted below 80hz (ie. had no sub-bass). By doing that, you can have a Sine wav sub-bass playing beneath the kick with no interference whatsoever, and then have whatever style of quick bassline overtop of with nothing below 200-300hz on it. Put them together and you have a really good sounding bassline.


nice one man! i must try this!
Etherium
quote:
After analyzing the frequencies on the Lange mix of Firewall - Sincere, I noticed that his kick was completely muted below 80hz (ie. had no sub-bass). By doing that, you can have a Sine wav sub-bass playing beneath the kick with no interference whatsoever, and then have whatever style of quick bassline overtop of with nothing below 200-300hz on it. Put them together and you have a really good sounding bassline.


Damn that's a mint tip. Gonna try this for sure.
dj-sean


The top one is just the kick by itself, the bottom one is the kick with the bassline. It took me a while to dissect what Lange was doing because you can't really hear a constant Sine wave sub playing underneath the actual bass pattern, but that is indeed what's going on (or at least, that's the only way I can replicate what's going on).

Take that template and you can have pretty much any type of bassriff playing overtop and it'll sound pretty phat. I highly recommend it.
Sebraaa12
Can I say that "getting the kick and bass to make love" is SUBJECT OF THE YEAR :) hehe ....


Analyzing is good step to explore the sound dj-sean :) hehe and giving ifo to others are nobel thing too :) thanks man
Sirocco
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