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Music sharers to face lawsuits - We just got screwed!!!
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| Orko |
Saw this on the front of the post this morning. We are now gonna be charged, just like people in the US, for sharing music.
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Here is the news report:
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Music sharers to face lawsuits
Recording industry to borrow U.S. tactic with 'chilling impact' for online siphoning
Robert Thompson
National Post
December 16, 2003
The millions of Canadians who share music files on the Internet should be prepared for the possibility of facing a lawsuit early in the new year, the head of the Canadian Recording Industry Association said yesterday.
Brian Robertson told the National Post his organization will soon begin launching legal action against Internet music uploaders.
Uploaders are those who allow people to access music stored on their computer hard drives. In some cases, uploaders freely share hundreds of music albums with users around the world.
The legal action will target users who upload or share music files over the Internet using services such as Kazaa, Mr. Robertson said. The Canadian Recording Industry Association, or CRIA, represents Canada's major record labels, including Sony Music and Universal Music.
Mr. Robertson would not say exactly when legal action would be launched, noting "it will be sooner rather than later." Sources told the Post that lawsuits are expected early in 2004.
"We've gone through a process, and spent $1-million on a value-of-music education campaign," Mr. Robertson said. "But the industry continues to be devastated by file sharing. It is regrettable that we'll have to take this action, but we've been forced to."
According to CRIA, sales of compact discs in Canada have fallen by $450-million, or 23%, since 1999.
Andrew Currier, an intellectual property lawyer at Toronto-based Torys LLP, said he expects a file-sharing lawsuit will have a "chilling impact" on Canadians who use free online music services.
"What parent wants to bother retaining a $500-per-hour intellectual property lawyer to defend their child against this?" he asked.
In September, the Recording Industry Association of America launched 261 lawsuits against users who uploaded or shared files using software like Kazaa. The lawsuits' targets included a 12-year-old girl who settled her case for US$2,000 and a 71-year-old Texas grandfather.
From the period starting when the RIAA first threatened lawsuits, through to the weeks following the launch of legal action, the number of people using Kazaa fell by 41%, according to Nielsen/NetRatings. After the lawsuits, compact disc sales, which had been slumping for three years, began to increase.
CRIA has retained litigation attorneys in preparation for the lawsuits. Mr. Robertson would not specify how many lawsuits would be filed, but he did say the legal action would be similar to the lawsuits filed in the United States.
For some time, CRIA has been using software that tracks and identifies users involved in trading free music files. "Users should be aware that using file-sharing services is a very public process," Mr. Robertson said.
Canada has approximately 3.5 million high-speed Internet users. Given the high use of broadband Internet connections, Canadians have been pegged as some of the heaviest per capita users of peer-to-peer file-sharing services in the world.
Only one legal service in Canada, called Puretracks.com, charges users who download music from its site. Songs typically cost 99 cents, while an album costs $9.99.
One of the factors leading to heightened free music sharing is that there has been some ambiguity surrounding the Canadian Copyright Act, leading some to believe that sharing digital music files is legal.
The Canadian recording industry currently receives a tariff on blank media such as MP3 players and recordable compact discs in order to compensate music companies for music sales lost to piracy.
Last Friday, in a decision on raising levies on blank media, the Copyright Board seemed to indicate that music downloading over the Internet was not illegal.
Michael Geist, a law professor at the University of Ottawa who specializes in legal matters related to the Internet, said the law is less murky when it deals with uploading, but there could be problems pursuing downloaders in court.
"The Copyright Board decision doesn't preclude them from going after uploaders, but in terms of downloaders, it certainly creates a complication," he said.
Mr. Currier said he has been waiting for a case in Canada where a music file-swapper was taken to court. He thinks it will clarify some of the ambiguity in the Copyright Act.
"I've been waiting for an upload type case to come -- I've been looking for some clarification from the court. My sense is that the Act would catch an uploader."
© National Post 2003
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We cant be sued for sharing Live Sets can we? I think not, because they are broadcast over the radio free of charge, and they never state that they cannot be copied or retransmited without consent from the broadcaster. |
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| Mumbo Joe |
| thats it. bye bye kazaa! |
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| Rocco |
| they can't do to me. i have the vinyls to proof these are backups :p |
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| DJ_Science |
| People kept saying it wouldn't come to canada but they never really backed that statement up. All I can say is that I'm glad I didn't start downloading like made when I bought Final Scratch. |
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| Trigger |
No I don't think livesets are their target at all. Remember who's behind this - the recording industry. So they're going after people who are sharing the material that is usually sold. Livesets are of no concern to them (if they even know of them). However I have to say I'm shocked that Canada would follow this ridiculous idea of the RIAA in the US to sue their consumer base. It lasted a short while there and then they decided not to pursue it. Regardless of what impact it had at the time in terms of CD sales, we all know that is a temporary effect and by no means did it put permanent dent in the online music sharing community. I always prided Canada on having more common sense then to follow some ridiculous action like this.
Going after your consumer base is so not the way to go with this. Neither was the recent idiotic notion to up the levies on blank recording media such as CD-Rs, micro-drives and other removeable memory. Thankfully the Copyright Board denied the CPCC (Canadian Private Copying Collective) their request to up their levy on the media listed until the end of 2004 when another decision will be made. Read about it here Basically the CPCC wanted to further tax people who use micro drives and CD-Rs simply because they can be used to illegally copy music! So without giving any thought to people who actually use CD-Rs for other applications such as backing up or storing data. Heaven forbid that we might actually use micro drives and removeable storage media for ....gasp...digital photography! The incompentence of these people never cease to amaze me. How they can not do any research into things like this blows me away. Maybe they should spend less time thinking of stupid acronyms and more time on researching. Following their line of thinking, why not tax speakers, sound cards and hard drives! I mean all those things could potentially be used to listen to illegal music!
Anyway I think its a shame that Canada would follow the failed attempt of the US to bite the hand that feeds them. I really thought we had more sense than that. Personally I think that they let digital music copying get way out of hand thinking that it would never really impact them and now that it has, they are scrambling for ways to stop it. If they're not careful they're just going to make things much worse for themselves. |
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| E*Master |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mumbo Joe
thats it. bye bye kazaa! |
Ever heard of Kazaa Lite? Very simple, look at the options and don't function as a super node and turn sharing off. Very simple.
...... and for those who are experts, just spoof your IP. :D |
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| Skipper |
Rocco - do you share those backups with others?
Sorry to be blunt, but if you're downloading copyrighted music that you don't own with no intention of buying, you deserve everything you get. |
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| dEsidEL |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
Rocco - do you share those backups with others?
Sorry to be blunt, but if you're downloading copyrighted music that you don't own with no intention of buying, you deserve everything you get. |
bring'em on! :toothless
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| oleshka |
| meh.. they said nothing about SoulSeek so i'm still happy! |
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| Orko |
| quote: | Originally posted by oleshka
meh.. they said nothing about SoulSeek so i'm still happy! |
see thats where you gotta be carefull. I think they say | quote: | | services such as kazaa |
, which is pasically any p2p, but they will target kazaa users the most cause its the biggest. Soulseek is also very large so be careful.
but this a stupid move considering that you cant stop it. this isnt fix its retaliation which will not be recieved well, by the public. And all that taxation on cdrs, go to hell. We do use them for other purposes, like backing up....what about our own movies? They just dont think ahead, or they do and choose to ignore logic. |
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| Rocco |
| quote: | Originally posted by Skipper
Rocco - do you share those backups with others?
Sorry to be blunt, but if you're downloading copyrighted music that you don't own with no intention of buying, you deserve everything you get. |
these backups are only shared with the ppl who use my computer so no.. it doesn't leave my PCs really. just swap them from one computer to another in my house. |
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| cap |
| I'm not too worried. Kazaa Lite w/ firewall and IP spoofer should do finely. |
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