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Darker trance..?
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| Joi Lamusic |
Need some help/advices how to make "darker" (more progressive) trance songs...
Now I am really stuck to make those cheezy euro trance melodies. I do like euro trance, but would love to make darker stuff...
I like stuff like Dana International - Maganuna, Sven V�th - Mind Games, Covenant - Call the ships to port (club mix/Kaylab mix)...
But maybe someone coul give more artist/producer names who make this kind of songs/music... And vocals are always plus :toocool: |
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| DJ-Fuq |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joi Lamusic
Need some help/advices how to make "darker" (more progressive) trance songs...
Now I am really stuck to make those cheezy euro trance melodies. I do like euro trance, but would love to make darker stuff... |
If i was u i wouldnt put a melody in. Same with vocals. Unless ur an extremely great producer u will probably make ur tune too cheesy if u do that.
| quote: | I like stuff like Dana International - Maganuna, Sven V�th - Mind Games, Covenant - Call the ships to port (club mix/Kaylab mix)...
But maybe someone coul give more artist/producer names who make this kind of songs/music... And vocals are always plus :toocool: |
U could try second wave or third dimension by signum. I think thats the type of stuff u want to make.
For making this type of music u have to spend ages experimenting with percussion and fill the tune with fx. Listen to all the wooshes and weird things in the tunes i mentioned. Its not easy to give tips for making this music because its so complicated and u can only really make it by experimenting urself. Try making ur own hats/claps/whatever in a synth. Thats what i do usually. Also use the granulizer on some of ur samples so they sound original. |
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| Joi Lamusic |
Hey, thanks for the tips :)
I know that this "darker" trance (or whatever it is called) needs much experimenting and LISTENING to same kind of music.
So more names of songs/producers!!! Please!? |
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| Klangzentrum |
i think l-vee�s body shock - destination nexus or break this is quite dark! i like this stuff a lot!
i wish i could produce sooo good! but time will come!;) |
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| Klangzentrum |
oh, i just thouggt about a short sample of a track i currently producing!
perhaps you can listen to it and tell me if this is the sound you�re searching for! also others opinions wished on this!
here it is: http://mitglied.lycos.de/klangzentrum/depression.mp3 (save target as)
not eq-ed or compressed or anything else! so dont worry about the sound quality! |
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| DJ-Fuq |
| quote: | Originally posted by Joi Lamusic
Hey, thanks for the tips :)
I know that this "darker" trance (or whatever it is called) needs much experimenting and LISTENING to same kind of music.
So more names of songs/producers!!! Please!? |
Well i dont know much recent stuff as ive not been listening to much new trance or buying new records for the past while because most of it has been . Id probably not remember anyway as i was pissed last night and have a bit of a hangover :whip:
But anyway, u can try these oldies
rba - no alternative (quo vadis mix) (good hats in there)
mauro picotto - lizard (megavoices mix), + most of picottos more recent stuff
signum - thrillseeker
Some baby doc/cosmic gate/scot project/shokk/marco v/warp brothers etc stuff will all give u good ideas too. And listen to some hard house tunes by the likes of nick sentience because theres usually good fx in them. |
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| DJ-Fuq |
| quote: | Originally posted by Klangzentrum
oh, i just thouggt about a short sample of a track i currently producing!
perhaps you can listen to it and tell me if this is the sound you�re searching for! also others opinions wished on this!
here it is: http://mitglied.lycos.de/klangzentrum/depression.mp3 (save target as)
not eq-ed or compressed or anything else! so dont worry about the sound quality! |
Theres not really much to comment on so far. The quality is ok, the synths are decent but too loud and the kick and hats/shaker things are good. Id put a harder kick in on top of the 1 already there.
I dont like the chord changes tho. |
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| Klangzentrum |
the chord changes are, because it�s just an overview of the track! i know it can�t stay this way :D
mastering is the next thing!
also a percussion line is needed!
i�ll try another kickdrum layed over (thx for the tip)!
but u thought of posting this sample, because it has a dark atmosphere, imo! |
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| Joi Lamusic |
Yeah, it sounds quite darkish :) Needs those percussions...
Good start IMO. |
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| Joi Lamusic |
| And thanks for thoes names... But I would really like to know "dark" trance songs with some vocals... Thanks in advance :) |
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| Klangzentrum |
Nat Monday - Waiting [John Creamer & Stephane K Mix]
dark atmosphere, nice vocals, but not really a trance-song! very good to thing about a lot of things... :toocool:
Lenny Kravitz - Believe In Me [Shane 54's Pink Flood Remix]
cool remix! i like the original, but i love this remix!
Scanners - Prayer [Original Mix]
driving dark-trancer, but with no real vocals...
DJ Tiesto - Lethal Industry [Mauro Picotto Remix]
same problem like in the scanners track
James Holden - Nothing [Hiver & Hammer Remix]
a little more deep and trancy than the 93 returning remix...
these are a few tracks, which i hope they belong to the kind you�re searching for... |
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