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| Inertia |
my friend just bought himself some equipment. he followed my advice
and bought himself CD players instead of decks because he was on a
low budget were he would only be able to get good 2nd hand decks and
no vinyl what so ever. so he bought some cd players he had used before
and had a decent opinion of. what do you guys think of them?
American Audio CDS-1 System
2x American Audio CDS-1 CD Players
1x American Audio XDM-200 2 Channel Mixer
http://shop.store.yahoo.com/djtronix/amaudcdsysfr.html
he got a nice deal for them, somewhere around $430.
never seen/used these in my life, but he has recorded himself and the
mix seems to be decent, lacking in that of skill, not of equipment
efficiency. was a little peeved to find out the cd player had no
jogwheel, but it isnt that much of a setback. the mixer is supposed
to be made specifically for use with these cd players, and has its
gains. the cd players have loop functions fader q start, and 8x
oversampling. excuse my ignorance, but what do they mean by 8x
oversampling? what, integrated sampler functions like that of a CDJ
1000?
anyways, discuss. |
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| Nemesis44 |
It's pretty simple really. And before all the people bang on about how he should have bought one deck etc. you have to ask yourself these questions.
Was he DJing before? No as far as I can make out.
Is he DJing now? Yes, obviously.
Is he happy? I'm assuming yes.
Whilst I have to admit that I hate anything on a silver disc and gear they play on, sometimes it's more important to get going and discovering than to hold back and do something half arsed even if it does mean using CDs.
A low quality CD deck out performs a low quality turntable by lightyears and as such will teach you more in the early stages. The skills do transfer to TTs too so it's not a waste of time by any means.
What style of music is he playing by the way?
Doesn't oversampling refer to how far ahead a CD player reads? Not sure but that's what me thinks. No doubt one of the CDJs on the forum will be able to tell us. :)
Cheers
Nem |
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| Inertia |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nemesis44
It's pretty simple really. And before all the people bang on about how he should have bought one deck etc. you have to ask yourself these questions.
Was he DJing before? No as far as I can make out.
Is he DJing now? Yes, obviously.
Is he happy? I'm assuming yes.
Whilst I have to admit that I hate anything on a silver disc and gear they play on, sometimes it's more important to get going and discovering than to hold back and do something half arsed even if it does mean using CDs.
A low quality CD deck out performs a low quality turntable by lightyears and as such will teach you more in the early stages. The skills do transfer to TTs too so it's not a waste of time by any means.
What style of music is he playing by the way?
Doesn't oversampling refer to how far ahead a CD player reads? Not sure but that's what me thinks. No doubt one of the CDJs on the forum will be able to tell us. :)
Cheers
Nem |
before this, he was only using this exact same system at his neighbors
house. now, he's finally doing it on his own, and is getting better
by the minute (heard his last mix in nov29, he mixed something on dec26
and it is abusively better). he plays stuff in the area of deep house,
tribal, a little prog and rarely some breaks. another good point is
he will lend me his gear when he is away on weekends, and i can practice
with CDRWs. :D |
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| vaes |
check thishttp://www.beglec.com/
click on the left: cd-players
these are almost exact copies of the ones your friend has |
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| `pr0digy |
No, oversampling is not some type of sampling in the DJ sense. It's about increased sound quality. As I'm not the best at explaining things, I copied this little blurb for you. BTW, D-A process = Digital to Analog (or vice versa).
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Oversampling is typically used to describe a technique used when transferring beiween the analogue and digital domain, where a signal is sampled many times over and above that actually required by the sampling frequency.
Oversampling in the context of the D-A process involves multiplying the sampling frequency by a whole number, typically between 4 and 32, or even higher. For example, in ‘8x oversampling’, CD’s base rate of 4.4.1kHz is raised to 352.8kHz by introducing seven new ‘empty’ samples between the original data samples. These new samples, though, are often not just empty strings of noughts, but based on mathematical models to assist the DAC to work more linearly with the extracted data.
Oversampling, as well as easing the workload of the anti-aliasing filter, which can now operate more gently at a higher frequency, can also reduce distortion created when those analogue signals are first turned from continuous, analogue waveforms into stepped, digital, stair-like curves. This quantization noise is now spread over a larger band after oversampling, and can even be somewhat shifted out of the audible envelope by the technique of noise-shaping. |
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| Nemesis44 |
Basically I would imagine that the better the oversampling the tighter the waveform so the better the sound.
That's if I have managed to translate that text... :D
Cheers
Nem |
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| Inertia |
| quote: | Originally posted by vaes
check thishttp://www.beglec.com/
click on the left: cd-players
these are almost exact copies of the ones your friend has |
very true... they seem to copy deisgns, the tt's look a lot like techs
if its good enough to want to copy, hey its a good sign :D
anyone ever used a Beglec product? |
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| vaes |
a lot of people use it here in belgium
beglec is like a starter brand, they are quit good to start with
and well enough for the belgian bedroom dj's
i use them at home and i'm quit happy with them |
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