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| imokruok |
by Rabbi Meir Kahane
I understand that you are upset over us, here in Israel. Indeed, it appears that you are quite upset, even angry. (Outraged?) Indeed, every few years you seem to became upset over us. Today, it is the brutal repression of the Palestinians; you never even notice OUR innocent victims of brutal cold-blooded murder, yesterday, it was Lebanon; before that it was the bombing of the nuclear reactor in Baghdad and the Yom Kippur War and the Sinai campaign. It appears that Jews who try to defend themselves and who, therefore, remain alive, upset you most extraordinarily.
Of course, dear world, long before there was an Israel, we - the Jewish people - upset you. We upset a German people who elected a Hitler and we upset an Austrian people who cheered his entry into Vienna and we upset a whole slew of Slavic nations - Poles, Slovaks, Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Russians, Hungarians, Romanians. And we go back a long, long way in the history of world "upset." We upset the Cossacks of Chmielnicki who massacred tens of thousands of us in 1648-49; we upset the Crusaders who, on their way to liberate the Holy Land, were so upset at Jews that they slaughtered untold numbers of us. We upset, for centuries, a Roman Catholic Church that did its best to define our relationship through Inquisitions, and we upset the arch- enemy of the Church, Martin Luther, who, in his call to burn the synagogues and the Jews within them, showed an admirable Christian ecumenical spirit.
And it is because we became so upset over upsetting you, dear world, that we decided to "leave" you - in a manner of speaking - and establish a Jewish state. The reasoning was that living in close contact with you, as resident-strangers in the various countries that comprise you, we upset you, irritate you, disturb you. What better notion, then, than to leave you and thus love you - and have you love us? And so we decided to come home - to the same homeland from which we were driven out 1,900 years earlier by a Roman world that, apparently, we also upset.
Alas, dear world, it appears that you are hard to please. Having left you and your pogroms and Inquisitions and Crusades and Holocausts, having taken our leave of the general world to live alone in our own little state - we continue to upset you. You are upset that we "repress" the poor Palestinians (who never had it as good). You are deeply angered over the fact that we do not give up the lands of 1967, which are clearly the obstacle to peace in the Middle East. Moscow is upset and Washington is upset. The "radical" Arabs are upset and the gentle Egyptian moderates are upset. Well, dear world, consider the reaction of a normal Jew from Israel.
In 1920 and 1921 and 1929, there were no territories of 1967 to impede peace between Jews and Arabs. Indeed, there was no Jewish State to upset anybody. Nevertheless, the same oppressed and repressed Palestinians slaughtered tens of Jews in Jerusalem, Jaffa, Safed and Hebron. Indeed, 67 Jews were slaughtered one day in Hebron in 1929. Dear world, why did the Arabs - the Palestinians - massacre 67 Jews in one day in 1929? Could it have been their anger over Israeli aggression in 1967?
And why were 510 Jewish men, women and children slaughtered in Arab riots between 1936-39? was it because of Arab upset over1967? And when you, world, proposed a U.N. Partition Plan in 1947 that would have created a "Palestinian State" alongside a tiny Israel and the Arabs cried "no" and went to war and killed 6,000 Jews - was that upset stomach caused by the aggression of 1967? And, by the way, dear world, why did we not hear your cry of upset, then? The poor Palestinians who today kill Jews with explosives and firebombs and stones are part of the same people who - when they had all the territories they now demand be given them for their state - attempted to drive the Jewish state in to the sea. The same twisted faces, the same hate the same cry of "itbach-al-yahud" massacre the Jew! - that we hear and see today, were seen and heard then. The same people, the same dream - destroy Israel.
What they failed to do yesterday, they dream of today - but we should not "repress" them...
Dear world, you stood by the Holocaust and you stood by in 1948 as seven states launched a war that the Arab League proudly compared to the Mongol massacres. You stood by 1967 as Nasser, wildly cheered by wild mobs in every Arab capital in the world, vowed to drive the Jews into the sea. And you would stand by tomorrow if Israel were facing extinction.
And since we know that the Arabs-Palestinians daily dream of that extinction, we will do everything possible to remain alive in our own land. If that bothers you, dear world, well - think of how many times in the past you bothered us! In any event, dear world, if you are bothered by us, there are still some Jews in Israel who could not care less.
(Written in 1988) |
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| dj_ilan_yosef |
The words of a great man, may his name rest in peace.
His opinions and influence touched many in countless ways; "Kahana chai!"
Thanks for this thought-provoking thread imokruok!
Always appreciate your insight. |
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| Yoepus |
| eck.. this can't go to good places:nervous: |
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| Cyrus King |
im sorry, but this was just such a ridiculous letter.
This is exactly the epitome of exploitation of Jewish suffering that has angered many people.
I could sit here as a native or an african american and write about my peoples suffereing and how we "deserve" a country of our own. |
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| Alccode |
I once knew this guy, Joe, who was trying to move into our neighbourhood. Quite the character. One day he came to me in tears, complaining about relationship problems with so many people here. First there were the Joneses that refused to talk to him. Then the Johnstons, who once invited him over so that he could check out their house and they him, as they were renting out their basement -- that turned out quite sour.
And so on... in the end, Joe went out and bought a house himself. "Alas, this neighbourhood is hard to please," he said. Can you believe him? I saw that he was in a self-induced "Woe is me!" victim role. There was a duty I felt then -- I had to burst his bubble:
"Joe," I said, "did you perhaps stop to think that maybe there's something wrong with you?" |
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| Palestinian |
Do you have any idea who Rabbi Meir Kahane is???? He is a terrorist as labelled by ISRAEL and the UNITED STATES. Kahane Chai has been labelled a TERRORIST organization by the US and ISRAEL ITSELF. Kahane Chai assassinated Yitzak Rabin and massacred the Muslim worshipers in a Hebron mosque in 1994. Kahane Chai has been outlawed by Israel. You are worse than your own state!
You make me sick! :whip: :whip: :whip: |
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| TranceGiant |
| quote: | Originally posted by Alccode
"Joe," I said, "did you perhaps stop to think that maybe there's something wrong with you?" |
Finally some1 said it. It's the Jews who are to blame for their own pesecution! |
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| TranceGiant |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
im sorry, but this was just such a ridiculous letter.
This is exactly the epitome of exploitation of Jewish suffering that has caused has angered many people.
I could sit here as a native or an african american and write about my peoples suffereing and how we "deserve" a country of our own. |
So you don't see a logic in the Jewish decision to found their own state in order to be finally able to protect themslves instead of constantly depending on other peoples' moodswings? |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceGiant
So you don't see a logic in the Jewish decision to found their own state in order to be finally able to protect themslves instead of constantly depending on other peoples' moodswings? |
Nope
I think it should have been shared with the people that resided in that land prior to Israels formation. |
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| TranceGiant |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
Nope
I think it should have been shared with the people that resided in that land prior to Israels formation. |
that's a contradiction. If you share it, then why bother anyway? the whole point was INdependence and SELF rule. Nevertheless it is shared to some extent, seeing that 1/5th of the population is made up by "he people that resided in that land prior to Israels formation".
If you don't wanna see the necessity of the creation of Israel then fine, don't try. I don't see the necessity of "Palestine" either. |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by TranceGiant
that's a contradiction. If you share it, then why bother anyway? the whole point was INdependence and SELF rule. Nevertheless it is shared to some extent, seeing that 1/5th of the population is made up by "he people that resided in that land prior to Israels formation".
If you don't wanna see the necessity of the creation of Israel then fine, don't try. I don't see the necessity of "Palestine" either. |
An "independence" that was formed by outside peoples who took away land belonging to the Indigenous population of that time. |
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| Flotser |
| quote: | Originally posted by Palestinian
Do you have any idea who Rabbi Meir Kahane is???? He is a terrorist as labelled by ISRAEL and the UNITED STATES. Kahane Chai has been labelled a TERRORIST organization by the US and ISRAEL ITSELF. Kahane Chai assassinated Yitzak Rabin and massacred the Muslim worshipers in a Hebron mosque in 1994. Kahane Chai has been outlawed by Israel. You are worse than your own state!
You make me sick! :whip: :whip: :whip: |
First of all, on a side note, kahana didnt assasinate Yitzhak Rabin -it was Igal Amir.... (kahana was dead already i'm almost sure, and if you meant the organization itself - than igal amir was not member of it), about 1994 - i'm not sure if Baruch Goldstain was associated to Kahana or not..... but thats not realy important....
what is funny though, is the other stuff you have said,
cause Arafat is a Terrorist - much much bigger than kahana, and his organization the "Patah" was considered a terror organiztion by everybody until the Oslo peace talks - and still is responsible to hundreds (if not more) innocent life it took in the past and in the present under the new name "El Akza Brigade".
dont get me wrong, I agree Kahana is a terrosit, and happy he was locked in prison but ... you are kidna pathetic. wasnt you the one proudly said : "Long live Arafat!!!" ?
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