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14,000 casualties in Iraq since Nov 30th (pg. 2)
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by rizen
yep that is from Lt. Col. Scott D. Ross' unit. we dont know about the other evacuation units, if any. |
I've was udner the impression Lt. Col Scott Ross was able to obtain these statistics of all evacuation units as he works in the U.S. military's Transportation Command.
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how is being against the war a hippie? |
Its a Vietnamn thing, ever since being against the war makes you a hippie, no matter of your Pat or not.:p |
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| rizen |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
I've was udner the impression Lt. Col Scott Ross was able to obtain these statistics of all evacuation units as he works in the U.S. military's Transportation Command. |
yep
"Ross cautioned that his total of 21,972 evacuees could be higher than other reports because “in some cases, the same service member may be counted more than once.” ... Ross cautioned that his total of 21,972 evacuees could be higher than other reports because “in some cases, the same service member may be counted more than once.”
remember hackworth is not just counting the battle evacuations in iraq, but nonbattle ones too, ie: psychiatric. damn the act of war, causing terrorism in our minds :mad:
| quote: | | Originally posted by Yoepus Its a Vietnamn thing, ever since being against the war makes you a hippie, no matter of your Pat or not.:p |
yeah wtf is up with that. ing chicken hawks are the real problem :mad:
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| occrider |
| I counted approximately 40 or so people who were wounded from that website. Does this mean that there were only 40 people wounded in Iraq since the war started? Does the fact that there each story was contrived and listed for a specific purpose account for anything? I could just as easily reference the many many accounts of the good things that are going on in Iraq outside of the Sunni triangle by pro-Bush news reports but it's meaningless ... it's the same propognada from either side with a motive in mind. I'm sorry, but blogs are almost worthless. If you want to get a liberal viewpoint use the guardian or something with some kind of journalistic credibliity that has some respect for providing comprehensive, well- rounded coverage. That in itself doesn't cut the zionist mustard by my standards but it's definetely a step in the right direction. |
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| Yoepus |
ahh occrider you make me all teary inside.:(
thanks for always putting them straight
give it to me here, high five!
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| rizen |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
I counted approximately 40 or so people who were wounded from that website. Does this mean that there were only 40 people wounded in Iraq since the war started? |
I wish it was 40, but its not. that site does however not count the total wounded.
| quote: | | Originally posted by occrider Does the fact that there each story was contrived and listed for a specific purpose account for anything? I could just as easily reference the many many accounts of the good things that are going on in Iraq outside of the Sunni triangle by pro-Bush news reports but it's meaningless ... it's the same propognada from either side with a motive in mind. |
Im sure there is some good stuff, but the bottomline is that this was an unneeded and expensive war.
| quote: | | Originally posted by occrider I'm sorry, but blogs are almost worthless. If you want to get a liberal viewpoint use the guardian or something with some kind of journalistic credibliity that has some respect for providing comprehensive, well- rounded coverage. |
That sir, wasnt even a blog. It was a column from Soldiers for the Truth by Hackworth. Let me just add, that I didnt even know or cared if Hackworth was/has a liberal viewpoint.
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
ahh occrider you make me all teary inside.:(
thanks for always putting them straight
give it to me here, high five!
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get back to the farm, the jew named jesus needs more kosher mustard for his last supper :D |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by rizen
I wish it was 40, but its not. that site does however not count the total wounded.
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Exactly so what's its point? It's propoganda pure and simple. It's pulling 40 or so odd comments from random people in order to propogate a specific viewpoint. It's far from balanced and therefore should be avoided as a means to paint an accurate picture of events ... which is presumably the intent of the site.
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Im sure there is some good stuff, but the bottomline is that this was an unneeded and expensive war.
That sir, wasnt even a blog. It was a column from Soldiers for the Truth by Hackworth. Let me just add, that I didnt even know or cared if Hackworth was/has a liberal viewpoint.
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I was referencing your second source ;) |
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| Shakka |
I'm late to the table, but would you care to clarify how you justified this statement? |
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| rizen |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
I'm late to the table, but would you care to clarify how you justified this statement? |
been in the military sicne the age of 14, youngest colonel during vietnam, and tons of awards. heh even foxnews and bill orielly have said it when he has been a guest. |
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| rizen |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Exactly so what's its point? It's propoganda pure and simple. It's pulling 40 or so odd comments from random people in order to propogate a specific viewpoint. It's far from balanced and therefore should be avoided as a means to paint an accurate picture of events ... which is presumably the intent of the site. |
wow linking to injured soldiers experiences is now propoganda :rolleyes: |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by rizen
been in the military sicne the age of 14, youngest colonel during vietnam, and tons of awards. heh even foxnews and bill orielly have said it when he has been a guest. |
That's all well and good, and certainly makes him a distinguised officer by many accounts, but that doesn't necessarily put him in a position of greater credibility and I'm certain that there are more soldiers than you realize who are FAR more decorated than he(not to take anything away from him). |
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| rizen |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
That's all well and good, and certainly makes him a distinguised officer by many accounts, but that doesn't necessarily put him in a position of greater credibility and I'm certain that there are more soldiers than you realize who are FAR more decorated than he(not to take anything away from him). |
well i find him creditable even when he was on fox and i didnt agree with some of this statements. the more and more i think about it, his casualties count is probably right on the money if you include all the minor non-physical injuries and how all the right wing media hardly gives a full report or tries to give a total estimate, but rather simply says "one more dead, dont worry its not as bad, and we are still owning turban ass", well one is too many. im sure there are more decorated ppl than him, i never said he was the only one, but "one of". |
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