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| Shook1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Unknown DJ
i think its the promoters and the warm up dj's falt. the promoter shoudlt have booked a warm up dj that plays banging music, if i was booked to warm up for schulz id b ed cus i dont play prog, maybe the warm up dj was in the same position. |
Agreed! |
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| davidderail |
| quote: | Originally posted by Unknown DJ
i think its the promoters and the warm up dj's falt. the promoter shoudlt have booked a warm up dj that plays banging music, if i was booked to warm up for schulz id b ed cus i dont play prog, maybe the warm up dj was in the same position. |
i don't think the promoter has anything to do w/ it. the dj should know who he's opening for and try to compliment him/her.(especially if it's an international dj) |
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| razzi |
| quote: | Originally posted by davidderail
i don't think the promoter has anything to do w/ it. the dj should know who he's opening for and try to compliment him/her.(especially if it's an international dj) |
that is damn true. i had to open for some australian dj, and i talked to him before my set. he said he was going to drop hard trance all night, so i started with some prog but moved into trance and then finished my set with 2 hard trance tracks, and then he picked up from there... its just something you have to DO as a dj |
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| basd |
| quote: | Originally posted by davidderail
i don't think the promoter has anything to do w/ it. the dj should know who he's opening for and try to compliment him/her.(especially if it's an international dj) |
No?
I think it's just plain stupid to put a techno DJ on first and end with a progressive one.. And that's the responsibility of the promoter..
OK, the DJ in between can switch a bit from techno to tech-house to prog but I think that's exactly the opposite of how a night should be built up.. |
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| Ghostface |
| quote: | Originally posted by razzi
that is damn true. i had to open for some australian dj, and i talked to him before my set. he said he was going to drop hard trance all night, so i started with some prog but moved into trance and then finished my set with 2 hard trance tracks, and then he picked up from there... its just something you have to DO as a dj |
which Dj if you can remember? (just interested)
Sounds Markus was put in a situation due to the unprofessionalism of the promoter and previous DJs. |
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| razzi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ghostface
which Dj if you can remember? (just interested)
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ah sorry i forget his dj alias, but his name was nick. lol that probably doesnt help! sorry :) |
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| MERiDiAN5i2 |
I usually throw down harddance, and it's rare I get 150bpm 4/4 to mix out of.
Killing the last set and starting from scratch isn't a bad thing.
sometimes is better than trying to mix out of an greatly opposing beat.
it's all about phrases. stop the offending track on a phrase, start the new rhythm on a phrase. try a powerdown or backscratch over a single beat.
or, if they are close enough to beatmatch, use the breakdowns to your advantage.
it *can* be made to sound good - it's just about avoiding conflicting sounds or obvious beat-mis-matching |
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| Floorfiller |
| i want to know what the hell markus schulz was doing headlining a TECHNO party?? thats not even close to his style...that's where the problem lies.. |
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| `pr0digy |
| quote: | Originally posted by MERiDiAN5i2
I usually throw down harddance, and it's rare I get 150bpm 4/4 to mix out of.
Killing the last set and starting from scratch isn't a bad thing.
sometimes is better than trying to mix out of an greatly opposing beat.
it's all about phrases. stop the offending track on a phrase, start the new rhythm on a phrase. try a powerdown or backscratch over a single beat.
or, if they are close enough to beatmatch, use the breakdowns to your advantage.
it *can* be made to sound good - it's just about avoiding conflicting sounds or obvious beat-mis-matching |
Seems to me like it wasn't the technical "mixing" that was messed up, it was just the clash of the styles. |
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| globalgirl |
| ok this is really strange. Markus Schulz was not at this party. Can someone please get me some more information. Markus was at Space in Miami on NYE. Please get me info about this, as it seems something is wierd here. |
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| jesten |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
i want to know what the hell markus schulz was doing headlining a TECHNO party?? thats not even close to his style...that's where the problem lies.. |
YES! That is exactly what the problem is. He should never have been booked to headline a techno party. So whos fault is that?;) |
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| Nemesis44 |
| quote: | Originally posted by globalgirl
ok this is really strange. Markus Schulz was not at this party. Can someone please get me some more information. Markus was at Space in Miami on NYE. Please get me info about this, as it seems something is wierd here. |
I hear what you are saying.
It is however entireley possible that DJs play more than one venue in a night, especially on occassionas like new years eve as the months that follow are pretty dead.
I don't know that this was the case here but just thought I'd mention it.
| quote: | | i don't think the promoter has anything to do w/ it. the dj should know who he's opening for and try to compliment him/her.(especially if it's an international dj) |
I'm assuming that the night was marketed around Schultz being there?
Whilst it's always in the openers interest to find out as much about the headliner as they can. If you are a techno DJ then that's what you are. Perhaps he didn't have the records for that and in which case shouldn't have been playing and that comes back to the promoter. I still think it comes down to both, but the promoter should have been aware of what was happening if nothing else. In the past I have seen DJs get yanked off the decks after just 15 minutes for various reasons, and this is probably an occassion when you should have seen that happen.
It does sound like the crowd were more of a Techno orientation anyway and definately up for it so perhaps it should have been Shultz that got yanked. It would be in his contract that he would get paid anyway as it's in mine. We are not responsible for these types of errors in most cases and this type of thing can really damage a reputation as a headliner.
Unless I'm abroad I carry two boxes of records with me and a wide choice of music. It's the going abroad which is scary as you never know who you will end up playing with. In the UK, Netherlands, Belgium and Germany you can be pretty sure that you will be ok with regards to the type of night you end up on. Italy is usually ok too but after that it's a bit of an unknown quantity. It also depends on the size of the town you are playing in etc.
There are a million things that can go wrong as a DJ anyways and this isn't something you should have to worry about.
Cheers
Nem |
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