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Reuters: Study links ecstasy, long-term memory loss (pg. 5)
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| SuperFarStucker |
| quote: | Originally posted by CynepMeH
You are sooo full of ... and probably too young to realize that sometimes when you jump from high perch, there's no safety rope. Now, I don't believe in lecturing people on what they should or should not do - having done many of the bad things myself I don't think I am in position to do that. However, what I do know is that it is possible to OD on E - saw it first hand. Luckily, it wasn't fatal but the fallout was devastating. Someone I know and care about OD'd on (bad) E. Do you know what is total de-personification is? If not, let me tell you - its not being able to tell what's real and what's not. People seem 2-dimensional (well, some people are just born that way ;) ) the people you know (relatives, friends, etc) seem like they are plotting against you or are not real - just your imagination. Being scared of what's outside the door and seing nightmares but being awake. FOR 3 DAYS.... Not being able to eat, sleep and having suicidal tendencies... yes, suicidal attempts even. A total FUBAR... and trust me, with all your persuasion powers there's nothing you can do - no convincing will help. You can't even take the person to the hospital for the fear of legal lash-back. That's the , aint it? Not even mentioning lovely stuff like heartbeats in a 140 - 160 BPMs! That's enough to die, isn't it? What about persistent depression thereafter for another couple of months and inability to focus, think, or even act reasonably because you can't focus?
So, you still think E is SAFE? I only hope that this never happens even to anyone. I'm not making a propaganda against drug use - some people say that it helps them reach a better understanding of themselves... But moderation is the word... You see some of the candy kids in clubs wacked out of their minds on E and all they really care is how long the high will last. Their eyes are out of the orbits, their brains are cooking at steady 500 Degrees and not a care in the world... "Peace and Love, Man!"
As far as DUI goes, sure E wires u up and makes u more alert... but are you rational enough to make a decision in a critical moment? The worst moment I remember is from my past life is driving on a come-down... You start having hallucinations. All of the sudden, I had a vision that an 18wheeler was braking suddenly in front of me. So, I slammed on my brakes... In the middle of I 95, nearly causing a fatal accident. That was the time when I didn't care bout consequences of my actions or what it did to other people or what risks it posed for them. All medical issues aside, you are not taking some percise medication that you bought from local CVS - you are taking a mixture of chemicals that only the creator knows about. You have no idea how much of junk has been dropped in a mix to give you the euphoric feeling you're so much after. It may be something that gives you not only rush but a little bonus - some paranoia, delusions, hallucinations, and other lovely side effects.
Maybe in pure form, controlled dose of MDMA is "not that bad" - but ask yourself a question, from all the pills you take, how many of them are pure MDMA? I'd say that less than 0.0001%... Why you ask? well, simple economics... Cutting costs is not only a favorite practice of Fortune 500 companies. I bet your local drug maker also feels the pinch of ever shrinking dollar and doesn't really care that much about some idiot who wants to get high. Your exploration of self priorities are not his. He doesn't have to deal with you nor does he particularily care about the "brand image" - so to say. He doesn't have FDA breathing down his neck to keep his standards up to industry's levels. Your well-being is not really a priority and I doubt any clinical studies are done for your benefit to ensure the quality of your roll.
So, just keep that in mind, next time you're slapping down a fiver for a bottle of water to wash down that bitter-tangy taste off your tongue, awaiting the launch time.
Have a safe trip.:rolleyes: :cool: :rolleyes: :clown: |
So it's story time eh? I guess that makes it my turn.
A close friend of mine and his father were going on a hunting trip. His dad, being the chronic alcoholic he is, decided to pack some liquor along with him and some juice to mix it with. They were on there way there when he decided to mix a drink while driving down the road. The car veered off the road towards the river bank that the road followed. My good friend yelled at his father and his father - startled, overcorrected and put the blazer in the ditch where it proceeded to roll 4 times. They both died... no actually they didn't, neither of them were even hospitalized, but they could have easily been killed. In the ultimate of all ironies, my friends father fails to even recieve a DUI for said accident.
Point: Responsibility
What cannot harm you in any form whatsoever? I'd conjecture just about nothing, but if you are responsible then you can at the very least mitigate the risk somewhat, if not completely eliminating it. I don't see anyone around here preaching how ed up copulation is but it is equally, if not moreso dangerous if you choose to hold you and your partner(s) safeties in disregard.
Next time you go for a ride in your vehicle remember that some could take your life at the next intersection. But hey, I doubt that's stopping anyone.
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| BobbyV |
| quote: | Originally posted by SuperFarStucker
So it's story time eh? I guess that makes it my turn.
A close friend of mine and his father were going on a hunting trip. His dad, being the chronic alcoholic he is, decided to pack some liquor along with him and some juice to mix it with. They were on there way there when he decided to mix a drink while driving down the road. The car veered off the road towards the river bank that the road followed. My good friend yelled at his father and his father - startled, overcorrected and put the blazer in the ditch where it proceeded to roll 4 times. They both died... no actually they didn't, neither of them were even hospitalized, but they could have easily been killed. In the ultimate of all ironies, my friends father fails to even recieve a DUI for said accident.
Point: Responsibility
What cannot harm you in any form whatsoever? I'd conjecture just about nothing, but if you are responsible then you can at the very least mitigate the risk somewhat, if not completely eliminating it. I don't see anyone around here preaching how ed up copulation is but it is equally, if not moreso dangerous if you choose to hold you and your partner(s) safeties in disregard.
Next time you go for a ride in your vehicle remember that some could take your life at the next intersection. But hey, I doubt that's stopping anyone.
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EXACTLY, we should definitely harm ourselves purposely using fun-filled pills, that's the way to go. Let's slit our wrists too, or even a fun game of Russian Roulette to get that adrenaline going, because we all know that we can die at any moment anyway. Why go on living?:rolleyes: |
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| dj_mdma |
this thread is Teh r0x0rs!!! :haha:
i have nothing to say about this. Obviously, everytime we ingest something, we are causing harm to ourselves in one way or another, be it, food or drugs. Drinking kills brain cells, and liver cells, smoking is carcinogenic and causes COPD etc, eating potato chips can give you cancer, eating cooked meat can give you cancer, eating raw meat can give you food poisoining etc. Its all part of life, and people choose to do it.
and as for responsibilty. That is only up to the person who decides to do what they do.
and djSlain, we all know you had your problems last year with your depression, their is no need to be an attention seeker again |
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| jp |
| By the time I reached page 3, I forgot what this thread was all about :nervous: :nervous: :nervous: |
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| The Highroller |
| quote: | Originally posted by CynepMeH
Maybe in pure form, controlled dose of MDMA is "not that bad" - but ask yourself a question, from all the pills you take, how many of them are pure MDMA? I'd say that less than 0.0001%... Why you ask? well, simple economics... Cutting costs is not only a favorite practice of Fortune 500 companies. I bet your local drug maker also feels the pinch of ever shrinking dollar and doesn't really care that much about some idiot who wants to get high. Your exploration of self priorities are not his. He doesn't have to deal with you nor does he particularily care about the "brand image" - so to say. He doesn't have FDA breathing down his neck to keep his standards up to industry's levels. Your well-being is not really a priority and I doubt any clinical studies are done for your benefit to ensure the quality of your roll.
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Do you eat meat? I hope you enjoy your next steroid and hormone infested hamburger!
After all this controversy over all this crap being put into meat, I bet you still eat it right? |
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| djSlain |
i was just wondering:
since my parade started on tranceaddict, us anti-druggies have been claiming it affects memory loss. the pro-druggies said it wasn't true because of this and that. now that this study is official and proven, all the pro-druggies are going "ya, we knew it all along, who cares."
so when we say it causes pyschological disorders and chemical imbalance, can we just end the war and agree on this as well, and move on to another argument, pro/con ecstasy? |
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| djSlain |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_mdma
and djSlain, we all know you had your problems last year with your depression, their is no need to be an attention seeker again |
I want you to go to that Depression Thread and tell everyone that rallied behind me, as well as people that i personally rallied for, that they are all attention seekers and that looking for a thread on TA for support is a waste of time. |
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| dj_mdma |
thats funny your last two replies have been mature and constructive...was that you posting all those other replies in the last 4 pages? :conf:
and i hold my hands up, the term "attention seeker" whouldn't have been used, but i can't come up with the right one now :toothless |
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| djSlain |
| ya, me. i was just getting tired of having people dodge quetsions and claim supremacy on topics that were not even part of the thread. kinda like the fact that this topic was an anti-drug thread, and all the por-druggies come to post. but when i come into their pro-drug threads, they start whining and saying "troll" this and "raver pants" that |
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| neoh |
What's ecstasy again? Oh yeah.. It does effect my short term memory, depending on how many I took the night before. I just started taking 5-HTP before bed after my sessions and my short term memory isin't effected that much.
As for long term .. what's ecstasy again? oh yeah. It probably does create long term memory loss. So does UV rays, alcohol and too much exposure to porn.
who ing cares.
djSlain;
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| djSlain |
| quote: | Originally posted by neoh
who ing cares.
djSlain;
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see. when pro-druggies get in this corner caused by FACTS from OFFICIAL studies, they say "who cares." just accept the fact and can we move onto another pro/con drug topic |
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| dj_mdma |
all i can say is that i am "pro-choice" let people do what they want to do. Anything that happens is their own resposibilty.
but this study is a bit crappy though. it was obvious that it had some sort of effects on the brain. there was a study published this week in the UK that "proved" we felt more pain when we expected it to happen. i.e when someone runs at you with a knife. i would have thought that was obvious!
we all know that alcohol kills brain and liver cells.
we all know that smoking is very harmful inside and outside of people
we all know that eating fatty foods coupled with a bad lifestyle leads to atherosclerosis and eventually cardiac myopathy or stroke.
but people still do it. :disbelief |
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