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Michael Moore endorses Clark; (pg. 3)
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
Although I will admit the problem with our education system is multi-facted, I would like to point out that the US spends less of its GNP on education than any other major industrialized nation. It also spends the most on mentally disabled students and the least on gifted students. Call me heartless, but where are our priorities there? |
We're all about reverse-Darwinism in this country! I see your point though. |
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| Elmo-On-XTC |
I support him. I'm not American but somebody has to remove Bush from power before he blows up the world
His tax issues don't seem to realistic but if he were in power i think he'd realize he can't do what he's proposing |
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| ehehe |
| quote: | Originally posted by anuneventrade
Dave asked me to post the essay that I have recently written. So I shall: |
Please change the font and the color, I'd like to read it. |
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| DaveSaenz |
| quote: | Originally posted by anuneventrade
[font=comic sans ms][color=red]Dave asked me to post the essay that I have recently written. So I shall:
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To me, Dean is just a lot of rhetoric wrapped in a package of nothingness. :O :) |
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| NYCTrancefan |
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveSaenz
To me, Dean is just a lot of rhetoric wrapped in a package of nothingness. :O :) |
Exactly and that has created a lot of problems for him now in Iowa, its ironic to see him now realise that people want to see what he can bring to the table as opposed to simply being anti-Bush. This is one of the reasons I don't support him, put forth your ideas and let the people see them clearly, simply attacking Bush is not going to win you the election among the voting public. Its about the ISSUES, duh! demonstrate how you can create a better American future Mr. Dean. |
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| rizen |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
Unfortunatly something tells me this will be a runaway re-election for Bush. |
thats not possible, bush wasnt elected in the first place :haha: :p |
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| NeoPhono |
| quote: | | thats not possible, bush wasnt elected in the first place |
[Val-Gal Accent]
Dude...like, that is so totally 2000...:D
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| DaveSaenz |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
Uh-oh Clark recieves the "kiss of death."
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I noticed that Clark's fundraising just soared, but Moore might scare off some more conservative voters. I know Bush has done a lot to scare off many conservatives with his immigration plan and massive spending + increase in size of government. Moore's endorsement is certainly valuable in the primaries where the hardcore activists vote.
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Unfortunatly something tells me this will be a runaway re-election for Bush. |
Shall we lay our bets now? From all that I've read, I'm convinced that Bush is very beatable if the Dems nominate the right man. At this time in his first and only term, George Bush Sr. had around a 70% approval rating. His son now has about 18% less than that. ;)
| quote: | | a tight election can lead to many good compromises on an encumbent presidents policies. |
Hmm, no I think that's crap. Bush has governed as if he had a mandate in his first term. If he didn't face the prospect of another election, we'd really be in for some extremist policies.
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
Personally I like the idea of a consumption tax (are they called VAT taxes?). I think that certain goods should fall under the class of luxury goods (based upon the type of item and the price). You could then have a fixed matrix for the consumption tax and therefore you don't have government directly meddling in the specfiic goods you purchase. But hey, which is worse, a government taxing your income or a government taxing your consumption? |
Yes that does sound like an interesting idea. VAT taxes are used in the EU, so maybe someone who lives there can give us a better perspective on how they are used.
| quote: | Originally posted by rizen
thats not possible, bush wasnt elected in the first place :haha: :p |
Are you still supporting Dean?:) |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveSaenz
Yes that does sound like an interesting idea. VAT taxes are used in the EU, so maybe someone who lives there can give us a better perspective on how they are used.
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Heh, we have VAT too, it's called PDV here. Basically all the products you buy have the 22% state tax on them. This, however didn't change the income tax thing, so we have both of them now. |
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| NeoPhono |
| quote: | a tight election can lead to many good compromises on an encumbent presidents policies.
Hmm, no I think that's crap. Bush has governed as if he had a mandate in his first term. If he didn't face the prospect of another election, we'd really be in for some extremist policies.
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Huh? I say that an election (a tight one at that) can lead to a president compromising on his tough viewpoints to a more "mainstream" approach. Then you tell me that's crap, and go on to say that the prospect of an election has kept Bush from being an exremist. Did you not just say the exact same thing as I have, but in different terms? I know we've disagreed before on issues, but are you now just disagreeing with me to disagree? Please explain. |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
Huh? I say that an election (a tight one at that) can lead to a president compromising on his tough viewpoints to a more "mainstream" approach. Then you tell me that's crap, and go on to say that the prospect of an election has kept Bush from being an exremist. Did you not just say the exact same thing as I have, but in different terms? I know we've disagreed before on issues, but are you now just disagreeing with me to disagree? Please explain. |
You make a very interesting point.:cool: |
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| NYCTrancefan |
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveSaenz
I noticed that Clark's fundraising just soared, but Moore might scare off some more conservative voters. I know Bush has done a lot to scare off many conservatives with his immigration plan and massive spending + increase in size of government. Moore's endorsement is certainly valuable in the primaries where the hardcore activists vote. |
Ah no, I was a candidate I would keep Michael Moore far away from me or at the very least not even pay attention to his "endorsment" Figured he would be rooting for Dean. |
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