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Beatmatching without pitch control?! (pg. 2)
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| DJ RANN |
Guys, I think there is a serious mis-communication goin' on here.
you cannot make two tunes with different bpms run at the same speed without ajusting the pitch control. period.
You might get lucky in maybe one out of 10 or 20 mixes that you do, because what you allready have the pitch set to just happens to match (coincidence). If you don't use the pitch control you are not going to be able to mix for more than about ten seconds before beats start galloping. You may be able to scratch in tunes (quickly from one to another) or mix on breakdowns or ambient parts without bothering to beat match and you will get away with it, but anyone who says "i can mix (and not just for 10 secs) without using the pitch slider" is just full of .
There is however, a way of mixing where you only touch the pitch slider once. While mixing listen to the tempo of the tune playing and then listen to the tune you are cuing up for the mix. If you get good enough at estimting the speed you can get to the point where you set the slider before the mix. Then just bring in the tune when you need and if you are this good, then you won't need to touch it during the mix. This does need a very good ear, good knowledge of the tunes and a lot of practise.
This can be done on the fly too: While one is playing, drop in the tune you want to mix while holding the pitch slider, and again if your good enough, before the records have a chance to go "out", slide the fader in a smooth and controlled manor to the correct speed. |
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| DJ Cheesy |
First of all, my friend isn't a moron, he knows more than me, he's been doing this stuff for more than a year and I'm just starting. Anyway, I'll try to beat (no pun intended) some sense into him.
I thought of an analogy when I was sitting at a red light today...most cars have different rates at which thier turn-signals flash, just like most songs have different BPMs. If you're watching a bunch of cars with their turn signals on you'll notice that they don't flash at the same rate, but once in awhile they will flash at the same time, but not for very long. It's the same thing with songs and their beats. |
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| Johnny Eckhardt |
DJ RANN's right. If you want to beatmatch two songs of different BPMs, you're gonna have to use the pitch control.
Why you're friend seems to sound ok might be because a great deal of trance seems to be either a solid 137 or a solid 140 BPMs. More than likely he's just just mixin stuff that happens to be the same BPM. Also, how are his mixes? Are they quick or does he do a lot of long overrides? Something tells me that they are probably pretty quick. |
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| Positiva |
| Well, essentially what you need to do, is get a nice British girl to have sex with you while you're working on the decks and magically the two choons will match up perfectly, like an orgasm. <> |
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| Positiva |
| Halo, my signature doesnt work anymore, HELP! |
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| DJ Cheesy |
| Haha, I'll give everyone a hint who the "moron" is, his name starts with a "p" ends with an "a" and has "ositiv" in the middle. |
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| Positiva |
| for those of you who didnt know, Dj Cheesy is a virgin :) |
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| DJ Cheesy |
| how do you know? |
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| Positiva |
| cause i asked you how far you've gone and you wouldnt tell me and i said all the way and you say nope.MUAHAHAHA! VIRGIN! |
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| DJ Cheesy |
| I'm just a kid, leave me alone you big mean person!!! |
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| dj dave b |
| Ahhh, I love the way the TA forum threads somehow always manage to melt from a perfectly sane conversation right down into the gutter :D :D |
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| dj_alfi |
| positiva, are YOU a virgin?:p |
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