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Kidnapped 11-year old Florida Girl found dead (pg. 3)
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| smokeape |
Thanks for the bit of info. Figured she was dead for sure.
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| ralf_c |
| god damnit all the hell. this story in particular stabbed my heart. this guy deserves something much more severe then death. |
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| Kamikaze Badger |
| I say we lock him up with my little brother for 3 days. He'll be begging to be dead. |
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| Mebot |
so sad :( :(
That girl is a year older than my younger sister. :whip: :whip:
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| SmackdowN |
| quote: | Originally posted by DarkAngel
Mechanic Charged In Girl's Death
Officials in Sarasota, Fla., said they have found the body of Carlie Brucia and have charged Joseph P. Smith with murder.
Brucia was a Florida sixth-grader seen on a car wash surveillance camera's recording being led away by a man Sunday. The man in the video is seen talking to the girl, who doesn't appear to know him.
A law enforcement source said Brucia's body was found early Friday morning at a church parking lot -- not far from the car wash. The source said investigators found her dead after negotiations with Smith, who was previously said not to be cooperating.
Friends of the girl's family have gathered outside the Central Church of Christ, which is near a hay field and some woods. The church is ringed by yellow crime scene tape, and police detectives could be seen examining the area.
The church's minister said a Bible study group met there on Wednesday night -- but nobody noticed a body because it was dark. The minister said, "we all feel helpless when things like this happen."
Carlie's stepfather and some friends came to the edge of the church property, kneeling in a prayer circle near the crime scene tape. Outside the girl's home, others joined hands and bowed their heads in prayer. The house is decorated with banners reading,"We love you, Carlie."
Smith, 37, is an unemployed mechanic with a criminal record being held in the kidnapping and murder, according to The Associated Press. According to police, Smith continued to refuse to answer questions about the 11-year-old girl. He has been held without bail since Tuesday on an alleged probation violation stemming from a cocaine possession conviction.
Sarasota County Sheriff Bill Balkwill said, "Joseph Smith is under arrest for the abduction and murder of Carlie."
South Florida authorities said Thursday that "strong evidence" links Smith to Brucia's kidnapping. Authorities believe Smith (pictured, below right) is the tattooed man in a mechanic's shirt on the tape. He was taken into custody on a tip from a woman who lives with him.
The sheriff choked back tears as he announced the girl's death Friday morning. Regarding Smith, another sheriff's official said, "We now stand ready to complete our obligation, and assure you that he will pay the ultimate price for what he did to her."
State records show that Smith has been arrested at least 13 times in Florida since 1993. He was arrested in 1997 on kidnapping and false imprisonment charges -- but was acquitted a year later. Other arrests range from misdemeanor battery to felony drug possession charges.
If a Florida probation officer had been successful, Smith could have been back behind bars more than a month ago.
According to an official at the Florida Department of Corrections, a probation officer had asked a judge to declare Smith in violation of his probation on Dec. 30. That's because Smith hadn't paid all his fines and court costs.
But the official says a judge refused to find Smith in violation -- which could have returned him to jail.
For the full article: http://www.local10.com/news/2826541/detail.html
My thoughts: I don't know for sure why this particular story got to me. Very rarely that something in the media will get to me (9/11/01 being a very obvious exception, of course) but this one, has just angered me to a whole new level. Mind you, I was just checking Yahoo when I saw this under one of the top headlines. So I decided to check my regional news' website to check it out, and it's left me with bitterness, resentment and hatred. Anyway, I am a writer. I don't say I'm a good one, but I love to write. Fiction: comedy, drama, action, etc. A while back I was pondering the idea of writing a story about a kidnap/murder but the perpetrator gets away, and the parent seeks them out for revenge, using my personal fav. handgun, which is in my sig. Now, after this incident with this kidnap/murder in real life, I am really pushed to write the story now. Maybe doing that will relieve me of the anger I am feeling right now. I had to get all this off of my chest. |
I find it Great that you speak of this murder and how it angers you, yet you have a handgun in your sig. The irony simply amazes me..... |
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| DR86 |
who cares how the mother****er dies,
just let him burn in hell. |
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| {b.s.e.} |
| quote: | Originally posted by DR86
who cares how the mother****er dies,
just let him burn in hell. |
'nuff said. |
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| trancEyes22 |
| its unreal the sick things people do... |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by occrider
I'm normally not an advocate of the death penalty unless the authorities are absolutely certain of the perpetrator of the crime. That shouldn't be hard to do considering there's video of the guy grabbing the girl... |
I agree with you... I think the only problem I have with capital punishment is that the criminal burden of proof ("beyond reasonable doubt") is not demanding enough to put someone to death. I would suggest that the burden of proof needed to put someone to death is so high that it's impracticable to apply. Even in this case, what if he claims he likes children, so he took her in his car drove her to McDonalds, shouted her a happy meal then had to go somewhere else on emergency business and left her there, following which she was raped and murdered? ... See even with this tape, you can never be absolutely certain of what happened... The best that the justice system can do is to be certain beyond reasonable doubt.
Even if I accept the assertion that the risk of putting an innocent man to death may be low (so far there actually isn't any information to suggest that it actually is low), the implications of the state killing innocent people (however rare the occurance) is sufficient for me to oppose the death penalty. |
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| Turbonium |
| Wow that sucks. I saw the surveillance video (it was posted online on Amber Alert or whatever) yesterday or the day before, I forget. Pretty ****ed up. |
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| DaveSZ |
| quote: | Originally posted by SpeakInSympathy
I'm definately very against the death penalty. All I hear about is some guy that didn't do it, while his family goes and watches him die. It breaks my heart...And besides that, I don't feel it is the authorities right to take a mans life. However, i guess ther are other sides to the argument as well. it would save some money, and jail space...and thats what america needs now, badly...and not only that, but i think it would scare off some criminals. |
I was watching a show on PBS called, "Beyond the Color Line" hosted by Professor Henri Louis Gates of Harvard University.
Of course I already knew the drug war was stupid, but when 50% of the men who are in prison are in for drug offenses, that's just ridiculous.
So I'd say end prison sentences for drug offenders, and put them in mandatory treatment centers, community college, and job training programs instead. Then you cut the prison population by 35-50%.
Most people who sell drugs also use them, and drug addiction isn't a moral failing, it's a disease.
It's cheaper to give a man work skills than keep him locked up his whole life. It costs about $50,000-60,000 USD to keep a man locked up for a year.
Obviously we'd keep the rapists etc. locked up, and then they couldn't get out early like this Florida guy and cause more damage to society. |
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| arctic |
| After seeing various documentaries about the sheer amount of innocent people on death row, I simply can't support the death penalty, even in case such as this. I also think that killing him is wrong in itself, partly because I don't think we have the 'right' to take another human life, no matter what they've done, but primarily because I think life in prison is a worse punishment. A quick death will put him out of his misery, he wont have to live with what he's done. Life imprisonment means that the bastard has to live with what he's done, and presumably he'll be alienated by the rest of the prison population, and probably will end up being attacked/raped himself. |
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