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EQing a Saw pad
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| Massive84 |
seen many topics about how to make the perfect saw pad..but i am wondering how to EQ it?
if you want a decent powerfull clear sound, but not let it cover the whole mix..
do you cutoff anything in it? or isn't this possible what i said?
tnx! |
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| alanzo |
a saw pad is similar to a stringed instrument..
I would cut all frequences below 30 or 40 hz.. give it a boost around 60-100.. reduce around 400-700.. give it a boost around 2khz.. and a small boost around 8-10khz for clarity.. |
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| Azza Robinson |
huh? lol wot program wud tell me wot frequences wot and wot plugin wud i use to do all that? lol i struggle with the same thing as the guy that posted the topic. just getting the synth to fit nice
p.s i use fruityloops |
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| State of Matter |
EQ'ing a saw pad isn't very complicated. Cut all the way at 90 hz, cut 4 db or so at 250 (to get rid of muddiness and clipping), and cut however much you want at 16khz to get rid of hiss and overwhelming highs. Don't cut too much at 16 though or it will sound flat and dull.
The trick is having a good source to begin with, the pad should sound really good without the eq as well. In this case, you're equalizing to make it fit in the mix and not to shape the sound.
With saw pads, you really need to be careful that you don't overload the track with too many other synths. Strings and things are fine and add really nice harmonies, but too many other synths will make for a horribly muddy mix. |
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| Azza Robinson |
| lmao oh my god im confused |
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| Etherium |
| Another idea here that isn't necessarily EQ related is panning the low end (low frequencies) of the saw pad to the right and the high end of the pad to the left. So, if your playing a triad chord the 1st could go on the right and the second and third notes on the left. This way you open up a lot of space in the middle. Of course, don't pan hard right and hard left, this can sound unusual. Combine this with EQ as mentioned above and a reverb that puts the pad in the background. These tricks work wonders. |
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| State of Matter |
| My preferred method for opening up space in the middle is by using Stereo Separation. This sounds a lot more natural than panning (which can make the sound seem offbalance) and makes the saw pad kind of surround the rest of the sounds as a pad should, rather than cutting through them. |
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| trancenrg69 |
| How do you use stereo seperation state? I'm a little confused to what you mean by that? |
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| Massive84 |
tnx for the replies...
does this also apply for a saw Lead SoM? |
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| State of Matter |
I wouldnt put Stereo Sep on a saw lead. Leads are supposed to be impaling, right in the center of the mix. Saw pads are supposed to bring out the harmonies of the lead and tend to stay more in the background, which is why Stereo Sep is good for them.
As far as the eq goes, it should be about the same because its basically the same sound with a different amplifier envelope. |
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| Etherium |
I love using stereo expansion as well to make my pads sit. There is a little trick that you can use to actually open up space in the middle with it and create an illusion where it seems like the pad is emanating from beyond the width of the speaker placement. It works wonderfully on JUST pads. :)
I advise a search on stereo width at future producers, there are a few great pro tips there about this stuff. But, after reading all of it, you find out that Waves already has most of the M and S (read the the article ;) ) stuff covered in its stereo expansion plug-in. |
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| Cloudburst |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancenrg69
How do you use stereo seperation state? I'm a little confused to what you mean by that? |
In FL studio there's a knob in the mixer. On every channel there's some knobs to the right. Under "AMP" the left knob is Stereo seperation and the right is panning.
enough knob'ing! :D |
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