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So, evolution or creationism - the poll (pg. 8)
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| astroboy |
| So I see everyone from the creationist camp is avoiding my burrito question, and my art question. |
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| WhoaNellie1487 |
| quote: | Originally posted by jesten
I respect your point of view but doesn't inbreeding cause birth defects? Correct me if I am wrong but I thought that was a well documented fact. |
Yes,I've heard of that happening. But,Not much choice there. We wouldn't be here if that didn't take place.
By the way,astroboy. I did answer your question. |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487
By the way,astroboy. I did answer your question. |
Your answer:
| quote: | Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487
Do not put the Lord your God to the test. That would be the answer to your question. |
My counter:
Putting God to the test would be asking him/her/it to do something to prove his/her/its power. I do not do that. I am asking you what your conception of God, and omnipotence is. I will not ask you to get God tomake the burrito and send it to me as proof. I just want you to tell me, since you have the answers, - how your definition of omnipotence and God deals with this paradox. If your faith is based on something, true spiritual searching and contemplation, rather than "my parents raised me as a Christian, therefore I am a Christian" then you will face the question and attempt to answer.
If I asked you whether God can redeem souls, you would answer. If I asked you whether God could create life, you would answer. If I asked you ehther God can be three and one at the same time, you would answer... No one would qualify any of those questions as a test of God's power - merely a question of what your definition of God encompasses. Now I ask you a similar question: whether God can make a burrito so hot that even he himself could not eat it...
I believe in a God of sorts, and in my conception of God I have an answer to this question... I want to know yours. I am not putting God to the test, I am not questioning his might or his power. I am questioning the foundation to your beliefs and an apparent implicit contradiction... since you welcomed all questions, please be so kind as to answer mine directly.
Hence, The question remains unanswered. |
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| arctic |
"Don't put the LORD god to the test" is just another way of saying "I don't know", or "Stop making me look stupid, evidence means nothing!".
The major difference between an Xian and an atheist here is the fact that "I don't know" is a perfectly acceptable answer for an atheist to give when confronted with something they can't yet explain (i.e. - the origin of the universe). A theist, on the other hand, can't give that answer. Whenever something in the bible is proved wrong, all a theist can do is say 'Don't put the LORD g-d to the test", or "No, that's not true because the bible says it isn't true!".
I'm yet to come across a fundamentalist who doesn't use evidence selectively, picking and choosing stuff that supports their world view, while rejecting stuff that contradicts it, regardless of it's merit.
And astroboy, why was your signat0r too bignat0r? :p |
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| Dmatrox |
| quote: | | If God is omnipotent, could he make a burrito so hot that even he himself could not eat it? |
lol :D |
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| DrUg_Tit0 |
| quote: | Originally posted by WhoaNellie1487
Yes,I've heard of that happening. But,Not much choice there. We wouldn't be here if that didn't take place.
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In that case we'd all be identical twins. Oh, no, wait, when Cain was banished from the garden of eden, he went out into the world and found himself a wife, how could I forget? Wow, wonder where she came from.
But come on, we've been all over the creationism vs. evolution deal, and you haven't shown one significant argument against evolution. First you've admitted that "micro" evolution exists, but denied the existance of speciation. Then you were confronted with evidence that speciation does exists, which caused you to retreat and to say that only species from a same family can speciate, but that god created families. You still haven't been able to explain the huge fossile record evidence, but you have only attempted to refute those arguments by posting articles which claim that some fossiles which have since then been found don't really exist. |
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| nic01445 |
| quote: | Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
But come on, we've been all over the creationism vs. evolution deal, and you haven't shown one significant argument against evolution. First you've admitted that "micro" evolution exists, but denied the existance of speciation. Then you were confronted with evidence that speciation does exists, which caused you to retreat and to say that only species from a same family can speciate, but that god created families. You still haven't been able to explain the huge fossile record evidence, but you have only attempted to refute those arguments by posting articles which claim that some fossiles which have since then been found don't really exist. |
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| tathi |
| quote: | MrOpus
Hey hey - I've got 11 followers now!!! My church is growing..... |
isn't it time you started taxing 10% of our incomes? :thepirate |
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| St_Andrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by tathi
isn't it time you started taxing 10% of our incomes? :thepirate |
hehe, i want my own religion too :D |
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| WhoaNellie1487 |
| It isn't tax. |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by DrUg_Tit0
You still haven't been able to explain the huge fossile record evidence, but you have only attempted to refute those arguments by posting articles which claim that some fossiles which have since then been found don't really exist. |
Ofcourse fossils exist, God put them in the ground to test our faith!! :D |
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| astroboy |
| quote: | Originally posted by arctic
And astroboy, why was your signat0r too bignat0r? :p |
Dunno, went below the line... I'll fix it one of these days. |
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