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| Inertia |
ok, i seem to be having a little trouble getting specifications for these decks, like torque (specifically that one).
i was messing with a STR8-80 last week and was really impressed (had never used a Stanton deck).
id like to know what differences in torque are there between the STR8-60, the 80, the 100 and the 150. do they just have more features, or is there a significant difference in the turntable?
i ask because when fooling with the STR8-80s, i notcied there was no use (generally speaking) for the key adjust, and those other 2 buttons on the decks. i noticed the 60 doesn't have them, and if this is their only difference, i dont think its worth the difference in money (want to get my own setup). i could get a killer deal on a pair of 60s, but dont want to buy something ill regret. yes, i know in the end i should get techs, but i felt the Str8-80s as more than good enough.
so, please post what you know about the subject, motor differences, and anything worth knowing before investing in a pair of these babies. any features you think i might want that the 60 does not have?
thanks guys... |
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| Inertia |
i tried that page before, but it doesnt say anything about torque. hmm, the 60s only have +/-10% in pitch, 80s have selectable +/-8% and +/-10%. but nothing on torque. it does say the motor on the 60 is an 8 pole, 2 phase brushless DC, and the 80 is the same, only 3 phase. wtf does this mean? hehe. any help is appreciated.
i will probably end up buying the 60s anyways, just to take advantage of the deal, and sell them for some profit, but still, im now interested in this...
EDIT: scratch that, saw it. 60s do 1kgf/cm, 80s do 1.6kgf/cm
1kgf/cm sounds kind of, weak... what do you think? |
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| Prodigy Child |
| Well you know about the 60s now, so thats out the way, I've heard good things about the 80s, but I've heard bad things aswell, and I've heard that the 100s are very good, sorry I can't be more specific, but I don't remember what was said, I would try goin for the 100s, I dunno how much they cost, but you might be in the price bracket to be able to buy used Techs, I did and they work and look perfect, but hey its up to you, I don't think you would have any problems with the 100s and maybe even the 80s, well maybe 5 years from now they wil go, but not realy anytime soon. |
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| IntegraR0064 |
The 60s suck. not enough torque.
I have str8-100s. Amazing turntables.....i like them better than techs, but that opinion is not universal. I would go for them, they're not much more than 80s, especially when you get a deal. Check ebay...i got my pair of new str8-100s (floor models though) for $400 total.
As you say, the key correction sucks. Pitch bend buttons...they're amazing. The only thing that sucks is that you really have to be able to mix without them since the industry standard is technics....which don't have them. But I still use them sometimes, and they're great. I also have up to +-25% pitch...which can be nice every now and then (especially since i spin a LOT of different types of music).
The 80s are decent, and they'll work...i'd probably get 100s though.
And by the way the 150s have ridiculous torque....like 5 kg/cm or something ridiculous. Not needed, haha. |
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| Inertia |
yeah, i know the 150 has the world's most powerful motor... +5kgf/cm
just plain ridiculous as you said.
so, the 60s suck eh? i still might buy these, just to re sell them, im SERIOUSLY in a position where i might get them DIRTY DIRT CHEAP. so, might as well. they have good needles on them, ortofon nightclubs, so that might be worth it...
damnit, i was hoping theyd be good enough to keep. but have you used them, or is it an opinion you heard from someone who has? |
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| borron |
I've used them. It's the worst i've ever used.
From what i've read it seems you don't have much experience in turntables. If you really want to know how good a turntable torque is, there is no better way than to press your finger against the platter and see how much time/strenght it takes to stop.
The 60's stop almost immediately with little force. It allows queuing (hardly) but to scratch... impossible.
As it has been said, i would go for the used technics... but i never tried 100s, so that's not really a fair judgement. The best thing you have to do is go test the torque of the 100's and then of the technics mk2, and take your own conclusions. |
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| Dj_Hypnotiq |
| quote: | Originally posted by Inertia
yeah, i know the 150 has the world's most powerful motor... +5kgf/cm
just plain ridiculous as you said.
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^^ Ha Ha that is so not true, the 150's don't even touch the torque of the Technics or Vestax. I have used the STR8-150's and can say that whole 5kg. of torque is complete bull. Need proof just try putting some 150's next to a Technics, or Vestax table, and run them at once I guarantee the Techs and Vestax will outpace the Stantons in every way! |
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| Inertia |
borron:
well... you see in this country, there is not a single DJ shop, be that vinyl or gear, what so ever. they may be opening one soon, but that isnt the point. id played with techs a few times, but had never been with an alternative deck because 99% of all turntables in this country (which arent that many to begin with) are tech12 mk2's. so when i played around with the STR8-80s i was very impressed. there was no shortcoming on the deck's behalf (only the DJ's, hehe).
seeing this deal with the 60s, i was interested in the idea, since i want to get my own setup, but dont control a large budget.
Hypnotiq:
im going by what they claim. it's advertised as the world's most powerful motor, 5kgf/cm. if that is true, well, it is stronger than the tech12 engine, still, doesnt make it better, and i dont have an opinion as ive never used one. |
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| borron |
I understand your pain.
However, i strongly advise you to keep your money... i've been through that also, not waiting to wait some more, biting my nails off...
Just keep it a while longer, and you'll have the money for at least the 100's, which while not on par with the techs (so i hear, never tried), at least they will last you a while longer (hopefully until you have enough money to buy top-end turntables).
Also i think they're price will come down a bit more, because the 150's will start to take over. |
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| IntegraR0064 |
| Not sure if i emphasized this, but I have actually used the 60s, and they really do suck. At least save up more than that. The 100s are a good deal though. |
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