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UglyDave
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The idea of a true biblical heaven is arbitrary. Heaven and Hell were invented to scare ignorant people away from sin and sheppard them into the church


that's pretty much the belief that i've been having about religion for the past year or so..

the cops couldn't keep things calm so they decided to make this up about an eternal life (hell) if u dont obey these simple rules!!!

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Examples:

You choose to sleep around - you get STDs - this is hell.
You choose to be selective (ex. get married first) - 100% safe sex - this is heaven.

Crappy examples, but yeah..


those are 2 fantastic examples :)
montie
different religons define it diferently

according to catholic theology it is the union with god
hence you become a part of God

and hell is the absence of being with God, thus existing in a state of nothingness

purgatory is the inbetween stage when your soul is "cleansed" or made ready to become unified with God
UglyDave
where's DigiNut?

he shall set me straight :)
{b.s.e.}
Afterthought..

do you really get 40 virgins if you make a martyr of yourself and blow up a bus with 50 innocent civilians? :conf:
montie
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Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
Afterthought..

do you really get 40 virgins if you make a martyr of yourself and blow up a bus with 50 innocent civilians? :conf:


thats what many mustlim extremists believe/are told to get them to blow themselves up
DJ Nuclear
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Originally posted by {b.s.e.}
Afterthought..

do you really get 40 virgins if you make a martyr of yourself and blow up a bus with 50 innocent civilians? :conf:


By Islamic law? You're supposed to go straight to hell, actually.

The "40 virgins for martyrdom" deal is for someone who is murdered for believing non-violently in Islam. The penalty for suicide in the Islamic religion (as far as I understand it) is damnation, but extremists use the argument that if they go to heaven after killing themselves for being a martyr, they aren't actually dying.
{b.s.e.}
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Originally posted by montie
thats what many mustlim extremists believe/are told to get them to blow themselves up


Boy, did I ever pick the wrong religion. :happy2:
UglyDave
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Originally posted by montie
according to catholic theology it is the union with god
hence you become a part of God


so i become part of God.. hope i get to influence the goings on on earth :)

tornado!! take that England!!!

:p

j/k :)
igottaknow
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Originally posted by UglyDave
what if: you're married to a woman all your life and she's shaggin half the town and just usin u for your money?? Then when ur in heaven, she's still livin the good life and shaggin everybody(in heaven). How will this be heaven for you??

Or: when u get to heaven, u realise that ur wife's been usin u all ur life, and she didn't even make it into heaven?

How the is this eternal happieness??

David

what's a matter dave did ur wife go and cheat on you and your trying to figure out whether to kill her or not? who said anything about heaven? maybe u'll both end up in hell on hades and on earth. :haha:
UglyDave
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Originally posted by igottaknow
what's a matter dave did ur wife go and cheat on you and your trying to figure out whether to kill her or not?


well, i'm happily singly at the minute (or so i tell myself)
but of my bitch ever did the dirt i'd break her legs :)

:D

getfoul
ask dj sammy. he knows.
Slylee
i think in heaven, we are all going to exist as just souls, with no physical attributes, because there will be no prejudices in heaven. it's like a shallow hal type of thing. we all see the inside first...no outside.

and we'll just float around all day eating marshmellows and riding stars:D
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