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Trance mixing/Mediocre setup (pg. 2)
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| Nemesis44 |
Vestax 275 follows the standard that most mixers have today in layout and it has good build quality.
I would say go for the Mk IIs silver or black.
The M3D is no longer in production as it was replaced by the Mk5 and the M5G is just not worth the money for what you get.
I have actually encountered the set up you are talking about in quite a few clubs so there is nothing wrong with it.
It's a great place to start and I wish you all the success in the world with it.
With regards to carts, if you are thinking about spending a bit of money but not going mad then get some Ortofon Concord DJs. They are not insane in price but they do offer a considerable jump in sound quality compared to a lot of the stuff that's cheaper than them. They are easy to mount and have good tracking.
Cheers
Nem |
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| `pr0digy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Percy
Is all that really worth the extra money? |
No, the mk5g's just aren't worth it IMHO. I personally got two m3d's off of ebay, they are now discontinued because they are so similar to the (more expensive) mk5's. You can still find plenty of them on Ebay though. |
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| New Deal |
| quote: | Originally posted by Percy
And about needles..what kind exactly should I get? What do you mean by this Ortofon E? lol |
Skimping on needles is a false economy--this is the foundation of your sound as nothing else in the signal path is going to improve what you start with, not your mixer, amp, speakers, anything. There are plenty of good needles out there, but I recommend the Ortofon Nightclub series as some of the best for DJ (not audiophile) use. If you will be spinning a lot, then get the Nightclub S (stands for spherical). This is a good sounding needle that is relatively easy on your vinyl. The Nightclub E (stands for ellipse) is a *slightly* better sounding needle (freq, response 20-20k vs. 20-18k for S) but will be harder on your records due to the shape of the diamond; these are good for recording your sets. If you want to save money, get the OM (headshell) versions instead of the concorde models--they look dumb but sound the same. |
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| trancinchink |
| quote: | Originally posted by New Deal
Skimping on needles is a false economy--this is the foundation of your sound as nothing else in the signal path is going to improve what you start with, not your mixer, amp, speakers, anything. There are plenty of good needles out there, but I recommend the Ortofon Nightclub series as some of the best for DJ (not audiophile) use. If you will be spinning a lot, then get the Nightclub S (stands for spherical). This is a good sounding needle that is relatively easy on your vinyl. The Nightclub E (stands for ellipse) is a *slightly* better sounding needle (freq, response 20-20k vs. 20-18k for S) but will be harder on your records due to the shape of the diamond; these are good for recording your sets. If you want to save money, get the OM (headshell) versions instead of the concorde models--they look dumb but sound the same. |
damn... where do u get ur info from. i have heard from TOO many sources that elliptical has lower record burn and is more for mixing and sound quality, while spherical is for scratching which has higher record burn. get ur facts straight. |
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| Carona |
| That's the setup I started with about a year ago and I really like it. I'd recommend that setup for sure. |
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| Nemesis44 |
Actually, one has heard that the level of wear is the same on both needles but it's more a question of where you get the wear in the groove.
In my situation, I don't really play a record for long enough or often enough to wear it out and given the nature of the business music gets old very quickly so there is always new stuff.
As a bedroom DJ I would consider going with the option that makes your records last longer simply because you have to practice practice practice. Take care of your records.
On the other hand, I can't give the difinitive answer as to which one wears out the most so would be curious to see if someone could do that?
Cheers
Nem |
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| New Deal |
| quote: | Originally posted by trancinchink
damn... where do u get ur info from. i have heard from TOO many sources that elliptical has lower record burn and is more for mixing and sound quality, while spherical is for scratching which has higher record burn. get ur facts straight. |
Thanks for setting the record straight :rolleyes:
elliptical = less pressure on the record when playing normally since contact surface is greater (by a miniscule amount) thereby distributing better the weight of the cartridge, tonearm, etc.; however, the additional surface area results in more friction--which may or may not negate the advantages of distributing the weight of the cartridge etc. in the first place. The rest of my "facts" concerning sound quality etc. are correct anyway, so settle down.
Bottom line: get a good cartridge. Keeping your records clean and using the right tracking force is more important for minimizing record wear than the type of needle. |
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| razzi |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nemesis44
In my situation, I don't really play a record for long enough or often enough to wear it out and given the nature of the business music gets old very quickly so there is always new stuff.
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can i have your old records if you dont use them anymore? :D |
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| Nemesis44 |
| quote: | Originally posted by razzi
can i have your old records if you dont use them anymore? :D |
LOL, shame I didn't think of it earlier but I actually got rid of 2'000 records a while back. Mind you, most of that was whitelabel garbage and had trouble giving it away. ;)
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Nem |
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| Boomer187 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nemesis44
LOL, shame I didn't think of it earlier but I actually got rid of 2'000 records a while back. Mind you, most of that was whitelabel garbage and had trouble giving it away. ;)
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Nem |
white labels rule.
amass another hundred and I'll take em off your hands.....I'll even pay shipping hehe. |
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| Nemesis44 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Boomer187
white labels rule.
amass another hundred and I'll take em off your hands.....I'll even pay shipping hehe. |
Boomer my friend... there are white labels and then there are white labels. Most of them are unplayable in any environment except to the deaf or hard of hearing and even they might kick the out of you for thinking it.
Cheers
Nem |
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| Boomer187 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Nemesis44
Boomer my friend... there are white labels and then there are white labels. Most of them are unplayable in any environment except to the deaf or hard of hearing and even they might kick the out of you for thinking it.
Cheers
Nem |
I like pain....bring it on.
they are that ty, sucks they wasted vinyl on it.
I'll still take em to test out my toaster-record-flattener idea. |
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