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mr. poopyhead
is anyone taking audio engineering? those are just the 3 names i've heard from talking to people. if anyone is taking audio engineering at ANY school i'd appreciate ANY information you can give me about these programs... tuition, class hours, personal feedback, ANYTHING...

i'm currently in mech eng at mac and i can't take it anymore... i have no interest in the stuff i do. i know i can finish up my degree here, but i'm almost sure i'd run off to college and do something that interests me once i'm done... i just can't see myself grinding out a living doing something that doesn't interest me. so i'm probably gonna quit engineering and try to get into an audio engineering program... so i'd really appreciate any info anyone can give me... thanks a lot in advance...

had a lot of time to think during reading week... so lost now. i dunno if i should stick to engineering and take the safe, stable route, or take a risk to do something that i actually love doing...
SgtFoo
Hello sir!

I'm currently in my 2nd term of 3 total at Trebas for Audio Engineering.... and I simply love it, except fro some administrivial troubles the school has had... otherwise, I'm loving the program and it's got most everything I've looked for. It's a short program though at 10 months, and lots of stuff to learn, but if you're serious about the job, you'd understand.

We end up certified in Pro-Tools, get LOADS of studio time in various studios in town, learn MIDI, synthesis, some music business, music theory and fundamentals, a little bit of production applications (since there's a seperate production course from engineering as well), we learn signal processing, acoustics, studio design, a bit about cymatics, sound & recording, etc.

tuition is $14800, but books and transit make it about $16000 for me.
Class hours are just as erratic and "different" as in the real industry, to say the least.... I'll say one thing... they don't mind giving you classes on weekends, and taking way your march break.
MaX_Cued
There's another one to add to your list:

OIART - (The Ontario Institute of Audio Recording Technology)

http://www.oiart.org

I went there in 96/97 when it was a 2-term course (8-month). Now it's 3-term. It's a really cool school with a high teacher to student ratio (about 1:4 or something like that) plus the lab time is INCLUDED in the tuition price (and you get lots of hands-on time there)

Check out the website for more details though...

Max
mr. poopyhead
thanks for the info guys... do you guys know what the job prospects are out there? and what kind of portfolio do i need to get into these places?

max cued: what are you doing now? where has your diploma taken you? just wanted to know what you got out of your time at oiart.
MaX_Cued
I'll PM you more details :)
breathesteve
Don't expect to get a job in this field unless you know the right people or are willing to work for free for a long time.

I went to Harris. I had a great time there and learned alot, but it hasn't resulted in any kind of job for me.
MaX_Cued
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Originally posted by breathesteve
Don't expect to get a job in this field unless you know the right people or are willing to work for free for a long time.

I went to Harris. I had a great time there and learned alot, but it hasn't resulted in any kind of job for me.


Yeah.. unless you want to start out dubbing tapes and fetching coffee for clients, Landing a job in a recording studio is really tough.
hardcore trancer
quote:
Originally posted by breathesteve
Don't expect to get a job in this field unless you know the right people or are willing to work for free for a long time.

I went to Harris. I had a great time there and learned alot, but it hasn't resulted in any kind of job for me.


Iam going to go to Trebas,and Iam hoping to find a job once Iam done,and Iam willing to work for free if thats what it takes.
MattVagrant
seriously...

finish the engineering first. there are a lot of extremely talented/extremely experienced sound engineers out there who cannot get a related job. i work with a guy who went to trebas, graduated, etc. he's now employed full time @ schneiders (and has been since 2001) 'cause he couldn't (and still can't) find work in his profession.

if you finish the engineering, then @ least you have some flexibility (ie. a better plan b than working in a factory). sure you don't like engineering, and sure you won't like working in a factory, but it'd be nicer to make as much money possible if forced to do something that you hate.

wisdom lies w/ finishing the engineering degree first, just to cover yer ass. then pursue yer passion.

good luck regardless :)
paul d engineer
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Originally posted by MattVagrant
seriously...

finish the engineering first. there are a lot of extremely talented/extremely experienced sound engineers out there who cannot get a related job. i work with a guy who went to trebas, graduated, etc. he's now employed full time @ schneiders (and has been since 2001) 'cause he couldn't (and still can't) find work in his profession.

if you finish the engineering, then @ least you have some flexibility (ie. a better plan b than working in a factory). sure you don't like engineering, and sure you won't like working in a factory, but it'd be nicer to make as much money possible if forced to do something that you hate.

wisdom lies w/ finishing the engineering degree first, just to cover yer ass. then pursue yer passion.

good luck regardless :)


well said, always have a backup.
I know many people who went to Trebas and Fanshawe who are working minimum wage jobs at grocery stores because they can't find work in studios.

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what kind of portfolio do i need to get into these places?


Even though Trebas may certifie you for Pro-tools, take the time and learn other sound production software (Acid, Soundforge, CoolEdit, SAW, etc.) as well. Not all studios will use Pro-tools. Smaller, lower budget studios may use Acid instead and you have a better chance of getting a job there if you can show that you can use these progams.
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