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nic01445
anyone in here ever tried DMT? care to share your experiences?
Sand Leaper
In case you didn't already see it:

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/dmt/dmt.shtml
swisstoni
what is it?
Sand Leaper
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Originally posted by swisstoni
what is it?


Just read the damn link will ya :whip:











































(Ok it's a drug, that ought to spark up your interest :p)
DJ Nuclear
quote:
Originally posted by swisstoni
what is it?


It's a tryptamine, like LSD. Someone I know once told me that he tried it and it only made him sick and not high.
tranceDJ
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N,N-DMT is a psychoactive chemical in the tryptamine family, which causes intense visuals and strong psychedelic mental affects when smoked, injected, snorted, or (when taken with an MAOI such as haramaline) when swallowed orally. N,N-DMT is most often called just "DMT", although this name sometimes causes confusion with its chemical cousin 5-MeO-DMT. N,N-DMT is present in thousands of species of plants and has been used traditionally in South America both in Ayahuasca brews and snuffs since at least the time of first European contact. N,N-DMT gained significant notoriety in the last 15 years from Terence Mckenna's many glowing rants about the strange visions it can precipitate.


Basically a crazy psychedelic. I suggest reading some of the user stories on erowid as well. People talk about beings from other worlds and visiting them.

Shpongle - Divine Moments Of Truth:D
swisstoni
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Originally posted by Sand Leaper
Just read the damn link will ya :whip:


(Ok it's a drug, that ought to spark up your interest :p)


lol jan :p i opened the link and there were just too many more headings and links so i couldn't be arsed. now u have given me a kick up the arse, i shall read. ..so like a date rape drug too?
Sand Leaper
Taking and going off DMT seems such a ing process though, watching your diet everytime you go off, prepare MAOIs before taking it etc. I guess the trip must be worth all the fuss.

@ toni: nah, it's more like a hallucinogen like LSD or so.
swisstoni
, i never heard of it and don't like the sound of it either :(
Sand Leaper
Here are the effects that one group (edit: allegedly, I dunno if I buy this) of people experienced on DMT:

The Trip: Content and Comments

The basic phenomena of the trip were as highlighted below.

Gracie saw none of the visions described below. In fact, she saw no visions during the trip. She was high and the trip room took on a beautiful jewelled quality. She had no tendency to drift into a trance even though she had taken the same dosage of DMT and mushrooms as Zarkov.


Zarkov could not resist the trance. Strangely, he could talk with ease but could not maintain any other semblance of contact with reality. Any attempt to do so resulted in overwhelming stomach cramps, full body shivers, vertigo and throbbing headache. All of these body symptoms went away if he paid attention to the trance state.


Zarkov's first vision was a stadium full of hostile giant insect creatures that he was familiar with from previous mushroom trips. However, immediately the DMT 'banshee' creatures floated in and sang this message, 'Aren't they a dull and pompous bunch! But don't worry, they can't get at you because we are here.' These 'banshee' creatures were a common occurance in Zarkov's DMT trips.

[picture of two smiling banshees]


The next series of visions were of various aliens that seemed to be trying to sell Zarkov various visions. The banshees continued to accompany the visions and offer comment.


At about the chemical peak of the trip (one hour), the house had a rash of poltergeist phenomena that were jointly observed by both of us. Furthermore, the cats noticed them and followed them as they made their way through the house. The banshees advised Zarkov not to worry about them because 'things like this happen.' This was the last point in the trip where Zarkov could maintain contact with ordinary reality.


The banshees formed a gate next to an alien selling visions indicating that Zarkov should 'buy into' this vision.


By 'going' through the gate, Zarkov found himself someplace else.


This some place else was another world. It no longer seemed like a psychedelic vision, but rather it seemed like a real world. The sun felt warm; when it went down Zarkov felt cool. To move around it was necessary to walk. Wherever he looked, there was a realistic amount of detail. No insubstantial visions, just a real world wherever Zarkov looked. He could eat, walk, swim, and talk to the other characters.


The world was Gracie's fantasy world. Even though she couldn't see it, Zarkov's verbal description matched her world. She could give instructions to Zarkov that he could follow to get around.


The world was a bronze-age city. In the background were green and fertile mountains. The architecture was of massive granite blocks with a poured concrete look about them. The style was neoclassical crossed with Minoan with a touch of Jack Vance. The mise-en-scene made sense and did not appear contrived. The aesthetic sensibility, while of the wretched excess school, was coherent. It was the most beautiful place Zarkov had ever seen, in shades of pink, mauve, purple and gold.


The story line was that of the wierdest heavy metal video ever designed. There were barbaric artifacts and luxury items all over. The world was inhabited by buxom, bottom-heavy, voluptuous nymphos. Zarkov found himself in an elaborate caped outfit, somewhere between Darth Vadar and Ming the Merciless. His entourage was a group of cretinous, long-haired sleazos in heavy metal dress and carrying guitars. The trip consisted of a tour through the city from the wharf to the main temple where a three-day orgy took place.


The world somehow seemed like an isomorphic metaphor to Gracie's personality structure.


The world was coherent and consistent. It had internal rules as inexorable as the 'natural laws' on earth.


It had its own linear time. Subjectively, Zarkov spent three days in the world. Yet this voyaqe was encompassed in a normal six-hour mushroom trip. Furthermore, any attempt to reestablish contact with earth left huge gaps in the story since the world proceeded at its own pace, even if Zarkov wasn't paying attention.


It did not seem like telepathy or a projection from Gracie's head. Rather, we believe that somehow the fantasy world was lifted from Gracie's head and placed in the tryptamine 'library of all time and space' where Zarkov 'read out the diskette .


The only psychedelic aspect to the world was the continual presence of the DMT banshees, albeit they were 'disguised' as a sort of observer/chorus as bats, orchids, etc., throughout the experience.


The DMT acted as a tuner of some sort for the mushroom experience. Certain aspects of the vision seemed characteristically DMT, like the banshees, the extreme time dilation, and the bejewelled colors. The mushroom contributed the epic quality, the exfoliating details and the practical joke quality of the whole set-up.


Such an experience, if controllable, would be extremely useful to a shaman trying to treat mental illness. He could walk through the streets of his patient's mind without the verbal filter of analysis. It might even be possible to make changes in the landscape to effect a cure. The demons lurking in the shadows would be a constant danger, 'You might not come back.'

http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=1858

astroboy
A reasonably well respected scientist researched this drug and came up with some very trippy conclusions. He wrote a book about it called something like "The Spirit Molecule" I think... probly worth a look.
Misty Kitty
it sounds like a form of lucid dreaming, or astral travel with a bit of telekenisis thrown in. sounds like fun, i suppose it depends on how body conscious you are as to if you can handle the physical sensation of the getting high, and if your happy enough to look at weird stuff.
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