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The term "Palestine"
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| dj_ilan_yosef |
Summary
The international community has for more than 50 years been in the practice of referring to the Land of Israel by the term "Palestine" and the Arab inhabitants of that land as "Palestinians." The use of these terms, however, is the perpetuation of a historical inaccuracy.
Historical usage
1 - The term "Palestine" is derived from the ancient Philistines, an Aegean people who colonized the Mediteranean coast of what is now "Israel proper" and the Gaza Strip in the 12th century BC.
2 - While the ancient Philistines disappeared from history in the second half of the first millineum BC, the term "Palestine" was kept alive by the Romans in the second century AD.
3 - Following the defeat of the second Jewish revolt under Simon Bar Kochva in 135 AD, the Roman Emperor Hadrian renamed Judea as Palaestina, in referrence to Israel's ancient enemy, as a slap in the face of the defeated Jews.
4 - Prior to Hadrian's act of hatred, the Land of Israel was consistently referred to as Judea by Roman era writers such as Pliny, Tacitus, Plutarch, Strabo and Ptolemy.
5 - Eusebius (ca. 300 AD) writes of Hadrian's law, which "ensured that not even from a distance might Jews have a view of their ancestrial soil..." (Ecclesiastical History, IV:6)
6 - The New Testament, written during the 1st and 2nd centuries AD, never uses the term "Palestine", but rather refers to the region as the "Land of Israel" or "Judea."
7 - The Koran, written in the 7 century AD, never uses the term "Palestine", but rather refers to the region as the "holy land" and as being divinely assigned to the Israelites. (Sura 5:12, 20-21)
8 - "Palestine" was used off and on during the centuries of Muslim [Arab, Turk, Marmuluke] control, but was always understood to be a part of Syria - this is evident from the 1946 Arab testimony before the Anglo-American Commission of Inquiry on Palestine, which referred to "Palestine" as part of "Greater Syria."
Rebirth
1 - The respected Encyclopedia Italiano (Vol. 26, ca. 1930) tells of "Palestine" becoming the preferred term for the region in modern times as part of the revival of Latin as the "scientific" language.
2 - Despite the resurgence, the famous eleventh edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica (1911) continued to associate "Palestine" with the "Hebrews."
3 - Until the mid-20th century, "Palestine" remained a Western geographical term that never defined a nation or a people group.
4 - Following the 1967 Six Day War, the Arab world intensified efforts to transform the geographical term "Palestine" into one denoting an ancient Arab culture. |
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| tathi |
| Palestinian ignore the thread no one reads the articles anyway :whip: |
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by tathi
Palestinian ignore the thread no one reads the articles anyway :whip: |
oh come on, let us have some fun:p |
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| George Smiley |
Well what would you call them instead of Palestinians?
They are not Jordanians, cos Jordan doesn't want them (Black September) and they are not Egyptians cos even Israel doesn't want Gaza let alone Egypt! The pand is not part of Israel, nor is it any longer part of Jordan or Egypt, therefore, they need a name...might as well be Palestinians if thats what they want?
dj_ilan_yosef, what's your point anyway? |
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| razmataz |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_ilan_yosef
Summary
The international community has for more than 50 years been in the practice of referring to the Land of Israel by the term "Palestine" and the Arab inhabitants of that land as "Palestinians." The use of these terms, however, is the perpetuation of a historical inaccuracy.
Historical usage
1 - The term "Palestine" is derived from the ancient Philistines, an Aegean people who colonized the Mediteranean coast of what is now "Israel proper" and the Gaza Strip in the 12th century BC.
2 - While the ancient Philistines disappeared from history in the second half of the first millineum BC, the term "Palestine" was kept alive by the Romans in the second century AD.
3 - Following the defeat of the second Jewish revolt under Simon Bar Kochva in 135 AD, the Roman Emperor Hadrian renamed Judea as Palaestina, in referrence to Israel's ancient enemy, as a slap in the face of the defeated Jews.
4 - Prior to Hadrian's act of hatred, the Land of Israel was consistently referred to as Judea by Roman era writers such as Pliny, Tacitus, Plutarch, Strabo and Ptolemy.
5 - Eusebius (ca. 300 AD) writes of Hadrian's law, which "ensured that not even from a distance might Jews have a view of their ancestrial soil..." (Ecclesiastical History, IV:6)
6 - The New Testament, written during the 1st and 2nd centuries AD, never uses the term "Palestine", but rather refers to the region as the "Land of Israel" or "Judea."
7 - The Koran, written in the 7 century AD, never uses the term "Palestine", but rather refers to the region as the "holy land" and as being divinely assigned to the Israelites. (Sura 5:12, 20-21)
8 - "Palestine" was used off and on during the centuries of Muslim [Arab, Turk, Marmuluke] control, but was always understood to be a part of Syria - this is evident from the 1946 Arab testimony before the Anglo-American Commission of Inquiry on Palestine, which referred to "Palestine" as part of "Greater Syria."
Rebirth
1 - The respected Encyclopedia Italiano (Vol. 26, ca. 1930) tells of "Palestine" becoming the preferred term for the region in modern times as part of the revival of Latin as the "scientific" language.
2 - Despite the resurgence, the famous eleventh edition of the Encyclopedia Britannica (1911) continued to associate "Palestine" with the "Hebrews."
3 - Until the mid-20th century, "Palestine" remained a Western geographical term that never defined a nation or a people group.
4 - Following the 1967 Six Day War, the Arab world intensified efforts to transform the geographical term "Palestine" into one denoting an ancient Arab culture. |
And the point of this is?? |
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| Vigilante |
i agree, what's the point?
Are you jewish, and oppose palestinians?
seems like a pointless thread to me
+1 :D :D :D |
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| astroboy |
| I think the point he is trying to make is that the Palestinians are a hodg-podge of diverse middle-eastern races, who settled the area relatively recently in historical terms, and have nor cultural or racial unity to unite them. This is all well and good, but I still say they deserve their land. |
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| nic01445 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Vigilante
Are you jewish, and oppose palestinians?
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because only jews oppose the idea of a palestinian state! |
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| imokruok |
| quote: | Originally posted by George Smiley
Well what would you call them instead of Palestinians?
They are not Jordanians, cos Jordan doesn't want them |
That doesn't mean they're not Jordanians. Jordan is smart in not wanting them back. Who wants to accept a few million poor, poorly educated, sometimes violent people back across the river? But ethnically, that's their proper place. |
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| dj_ilan_yosef |
I posted this to make it clear to a very big group of people who commonly make the mistake of todays "Palestinian" society as one thats been around since the time of the bible.
Astroboy was also the only one to give me the benefit of the doubt in regards to why i might have posted this article... he was right in doing so, as he's hit my thoughts dead on... INCLUDING having their own state (pending MAJOR reforms in the PA and its subordinants).
I havent had a nice rim job in a while... tathi, care to do the honours?:p :p :p |
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| razmataz |
| quote: | Originally posted by dj_ilan_yosef
I posted this to make it clear to a very big group of people who commonly make the mistake of todays "Palestinian" society as one thats been around since the time of the bible.
Astroboy was also the only one to give me the benefit of the doubt in regards to why i might have posted this article... he was right in doing so, as he's hit my thoughts dead on... INCLUDING having their own state (pending MAJOR reforms in the PA and its subordinants).
I havent had a nice rim job in a while... tathi, care to do the honours?:p :p :p |
Maybe you should try to make your point clear at the start instead of waiting for a suitable interpretation by someone else and claiming that was your intent of copying and pasting that whole passage. |
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| dj_ilan_yosef |
| quote: | Originally posted by razmataz
Maybe you should try to make your point clear at the start instead of waiting for a suitable interpretation by someone else and claiming that was your intent of copying and pasting that whole passage. |
Maybe i should and could have started with my point more obvious, however, i choose not to... and i'll probably do it again sometime in the near future! Keep an eye out for me razmataz! *where is that go yourself smiley?*:whip: |
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