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| CandyRaver666 |
I don't necessarily want to hear about different ways of producing drums. Sure, I've heard the old sampler argument.
What I want to know is : assuming you had had the money for a kick arse drum machine (imagine the perfect one existed) - why would you buy one ? |
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| Limit |
the step sequencer baby!It's just to easy to set up a loop and go with a dedicated drum box.
Limit Out! |
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| ehcsztein |
my style of live performance is why I use and will continue to aquire and use drum machines and groove-type boxes...
for me it is a matter of 3-5 devices with independant sequences and sounds mixed together in real time (imagine having a record for each portion of a song and then turntables to play them and one heck of a mixer to control it all)
...that is pretty much my approach and i love it and have yet to find a "better" way to accomplish what i do...
for a purely recording environment where software is the norm i'd say save the money and get something else... also if you have no plans to use the sequencer within the drum machine i'd say save the money and buy something else (sound module sample pack etc)... |
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| Vert |
| quote: | Originally posted by ehcsztein
my style of live performance is why I use and will continue to aquire and use drum machines and groove-type boxes...
for me it is a matter of 3-5 devices with independant sequences and sounds mixed together in real time (imagine having a record for each portion of a song and then turntables to play them and one heck of a mixer to control it all)
...that is pretty much my approach and i love it and have yet to find a "better" way to accomplish what i do...
for a purely recording environment where software is the norm i'd say save the money and get something else... also if you have no plans to use the sequencer within the drum machine i'd say save the money and buy something else (sound module sample pack etc)... |
Interesting approach, what drum machines do you use?
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| ehcsztein |
currently running...
Quasimidi 309
Korg EM-1
Korg ER-1
Emu XK6 (infrequently)
...for drums and misc and then the rest of the rig is fleshed out with the following...
Oberheim Matrix 6
Kawai K3
Korg Prophecy
Novation A-Station
Korg MS2000r
Korg Trinity
Korg EA-1
Ensoniq ASRX (Our beloved clock to which all is synced and will soon be replaced by an emu command station)
As well as an MC-303 with a cold solder on the DC input the i need to get fixed...
All of this is pushed through a behringer Mixing board...(can't remember which one off the top of my head)...and effects and such
three people at the helm for performance...we basicly hit play on the asr-x which starts the other devices and then just pattern flip and knob tweak to get the audio where it wants to go
The technique was developed around a Boss DR-5 / Lexicon Jam-Man / and misc effects around 8 yrs ago as part of noize-hop experiment we were doing...it sort of grew into the current manifestation...
The only issue we ran into is being dumb-struck trying to figure out how to record it :) so we are trying 30 minute jam sessions forced into 8-tracks on the computer that we will then chew up and spit out as songs...hopefuly ;) |
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| Freak |
get the bset of both worlds- a sampling drum machine.
The best is the EMU sp1200- but its a tad pricey and rare.
Awesome
The midi sync functions and midi time code, looping and patterns and also multiple outputs are also useful features |
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| RichE |
I use an ER1 as well but find that the cymbals are not up to par as say with a Roland 505.
There is no ride cymbal, and the cymbals are very bright.
I always find myself having to de-ess.
Set up -- EA1, ER1, DW8000 (circa 1985). |
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| ehcsztein |
| i am not big on the er1 cymbals either...accordingly i de-emphasize cymbals in the pieces i write...where-as the 309 and em1 have a good variety to exploit so i let the other guy do the cymbal heavy stuff...it is part of the reason i want an emu command station so bad |
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| Shook1 |
| If your looking for a dedicated drum machine then I would look into the MPC 1000. Of course, its a sampler as well, so u have to input all the sounds yourself. But as far as sequencing and its phat sound, u cant go wrong. |
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