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Would Kerry do a better job countering terrorism
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Yoepus
Al Q seems to think so.

How about you?

:D
occrider
Yes. :)
YaleTrance
Definitely.
rainbow_marble
hahaha:haha:

if kerry gets elected, the US is screwed next time terrorists strike :(

who knows, with so many liberal communists in the US nowadays, he might win :(
DaveSZ
US fighting alone = weaker

US fighting with our allies = stronger
nic01445
quote:
Originally posted by DaveSZ
US fighting alone = weaker

US fighting with our allies = stronger


See, I always thought it was the other way around.

That is why I am not ruling a country!
NeoPhono
Why?
DaveSZ
quote:
Originally posted by rainbow_marble
hahaha:haha:

if kerry gets elected, the US is screwed next time terrorists strike :(

who knows, with so many liberal communists in the US nowadays, he might win :(



The reason he's in trouble is because of economic security:


http://www.statesman.com/news/conte...2be15a0073.html

quote:


In battleground states, joblessness poses problem for Bush

In majority of counties studied, president's claims of economic recovery may not ring true

By Scott Shepard

and Elliot Jaspin

Wednesday, March 17, 2004

WASHINGTON -- President Bush is facing an economic minefield in his re-election bid in 17 battleground states, where nearly three-fourths of the counties he carried four years ago have lost jobs since he won the White House.

A Cox News Service analysis found that 72.5 percent of the counties in these key states that voted for Bush in 2000 have seen their jobless rates rise during his presidency, some by as much as six percentage points.

"The president has his work cut out for him," said John Green, director of the Bliss Institute of Applied Politics at the University of Akron. "There's a strong economic pull on the president's popularity."

He said other issues could rise to the forefront, but the "number one issue" in these states is jobs, "and people here don't understand how the president's policies are addressing it."

The contest between Bush and Sen. John Kerry, the presumptive Democratic nominee, will likely be played out this fall largely in these states, which have a total of 1,022 counties. And according to an analysis by Cox News Service, 751 of those counties, or 73.5 percent, have experienced jobless increases during Bush's presidency.

Moreover, according to the analysis, 545, or 72.5 percent, of those counties where the unemployment rate has gone up voted for Bush in 2000, compared with the 206 counties that voted for Al Gore, his Democratic rival, four years ago.

Cox News Service analyzed month-by-month unemployment figures from December 2000 through December 2003, the latest month for which county-by-county data are available.

The data came from counties in the 17 states generally recognized as battlegrounds for the Bush-Kerry contest: Arkansas, Arizona, Florida, Iowa, Louisiana, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New Hampshire, New Mexico, Nevada, Ohio, Oregon, Pennsylvania, Washington, Wisconsin and West Virginia.

In those states, 249 counties, or 24.3 percent, experienced declines in their unemployment rates during those three years, while the jobless rates in 22 counties, or 2.1 percent, stayed the same.

But the fact that counties with job losses outnumbered by nearly 3-to-1 the counties with job gains reflects the biggest problem the president has encountered thus far in his bid for re-election: an economic recovery that is not keeping up with the demand for jobs. The fact that these counties are in battleground states further underscores those difficulties.

The Bush campaign maintains that the president's fiscal policies, anchored to large tax cuts during the past three years, are responsible for the economy recovering from the recession that began shortly after he took office in January 2000. The campaign said that Kerry's plan to roll back the tax cuts for people making more than $200,000 a year would have a harmful economic effect.

Republican National Committee spokeswoman Lindsay Taylor declined to specifically address the Cox News Service analysis of county unemployment data.

When asked for a response, she said, "The president has worked very hard to get our economy moving after the triple shock of recession, September 11 and corporate scandals, and he will not rest until every American who wants a job can find a job. John Kerry's plan to raise taxes in his first 100 days of office would be a detriment to the small businesses that are the engine of our economy, and that is bad policy and a job killer."

The economy's growth under Bush has not translated into job creation, leaving the president vulnerable to Kerry's criticism over the loss of 2.8 million American jobs during the Bush presidency.

"George Bush and his Republican attack dogs are trying to tear down John Kerry because they're terrified of having to answer to 3 million lost jobs and the hollowing out of the manufacturing sector of our economy," Kerry campaign spokesman David Wade said. "There's no attack ad barrage capable of whitewashing their record of job losses all across the country."

While there is ample evidence of economic recovery at the national level, the president's boasts about the economy are not resonating locally, adding to his political problems.

"Constantly claiming that the economy is doing great only aggravates jobless voters in key states all the more," said Craig Crawford, a political analyst for MSNBC and Congressional Quarterly magazine. "Bush needs to change his tune on the economy. Bush is presiding over an economy that produces more wealth than jobs. That's a great economy for raising campaign funds, but no so great for getting votes."

Many of the job losses have occurred in the industrial Midwestern states that form the political backbone of the presidential battleground states and represent nearly one-third of the 270 electoral votes needed to win the White House.

The job losses are dominating the conversations with voters in the battleground states, at least at this early stage in the campaign.

"This administration is running us toward a depression worse than the other one," said Thomas Devany, 86, of Akron, Ohio, a retiree from Goodyear Aerospace Inc.

Devany said he lived through the Great Depression of the 1930s and never thought his children or grandchildren would have to endure something like that, but now he isn't so sure.

Becky Johnson, 22, of Akron, said the job market is her most important issue. She graduated with honors from the University of Toledo in December, but has been unable to find a job and has moved back into her parents' home in Akron. She said she's ready to leave Ohio.

"I talk to a lot of people," she said. "They just want to get out."

The sentiments of Devany and Johnson are reflected in a CNN/USA Today/Gallup poll released Tuesday, which showed Kerry with a five-point lead over Bush among registered voters in a head-to-head matchup, largely on the strength of support for Kerry on economic matters.

Fifty-one percent said Kerry was best on the economy, compared with 42 percent for Bush, well above the poll's three percentage point margin of error.

occrider
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Originally posted by NeoPhono
Why?


Some of what Dave said and also I don't think Bush (or his administration) is an intelligent leader when it comes to dealing with foreign affairs. Some situations (such as afghanistan) require the resolve and forcefulness that Bush has demonstrated, but other situations require deft diplomacy and tactfulness that Bush lacks. With him it appears to be either 1st gear or 5th gear when it comes to dealing with issues.

Foreign policy, however, is not the reason why I'm voting against him. I still maintain my rather monetarist economic beliefs.
Yoepus
quote:
Originally posted by DaveSZ
The reason he's in trouble is because of economic security:


http://www.statesman.com/news/conte...2be15a0073.html


Hey! Hey! Stop thread-jacking my thread with long ass posts.. next thing you know you'll bring up something about Palestinians, and then I'll be forced to defend Israel.

Stop it! :whip:
You've been warned!
:stongue:
You want long ass article to interupt the flow of the thread, start a thread of your own....
:disbelief

ok now having said that, let me read what you posted:p

DaveSZ
LOL Yeopus.

Most American Jews will vote for Kerry.

He will be better for Middle East peace, but then we still have Sharon and Arafat.

:whip: :D


How do you like my new sig?

Give em hell Barry! :whip: :happy2:
dj_ilan_yosef
quote:
Originally posted by DaveSZ
Most American Jews will vote for Kerry.


I don’t think that’s true... many believe Kerry will totally abandon Israel in its fight against terror, therefore voting Bush although he doesn't do much himself either.
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