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Question about EQing (pg. 2)
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| Massive84 |
| hmm the EQ in reason..does the gain, also express in db? like 1 gain is 1 db? |
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| NeoPhono |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tranc3
Keep in mind that the Decibel rating system is based on a logarithmic scale (in base 10), meaning that each successive boost of 1 dB means the sound has been amplified 10 times...so a 1 dB boost means a 10* boost, a 4 dB boost means a 10,000* boost |
I think your numbers might be a little messed up. The decible gain equation is:
dB = 10 log (I/Io)
So if you increased your initial power in (Io) by 10 times (I = 10*Io), your dB gain would be 10. A 100 time increase would be 20 dB, a 1000 time increase would be 30 dB, etc. A 4 dB gain is roughly 2.6 times more "powerful" then the original signal. A 40 dB gain is 10,000 times the original sound level. |
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| FuzzyGreen |
Well I'm not going to argue about the scale, but I do know that the human ear can hear volume differences as little as 3db and that is what is important here. You are changing the volume a HUGE amount for 20db and will be raising the signal to noise ratio in a very bad way for sound quality.
BTW illicit, Your MJ remix kick ass and the mastering quality sounds very pro (on my work computer speakers anyway). I'm gonna take the track home and relisten to it on my monitors so I can see if I hear any problems in a studio environment. |
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| Tranc3 |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
I think your numbers might be a little messed up. The decible gain equation is:
dB = 10 log (I/Io)
So if you increased your initial power in (Io) by 10 times (I = 10*Io), your dB gain would be 10. A 100 time increase would be 20 dB, a 1000 time increase would be 30 dB, etc. A 4 dB gain is roughly 2.6 times more "powerful" then the original signal. A 40 dB gain is 10,000 times the original sound level. |
Ahh yes that it haha numbers didn't look quite right when I first posted. |
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| Massive84 |
| quote: | Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
Well I'm not going to argue about the scale, but I do know that the human ear can hear volume differences as little as 3db and that is what is important here. You are changing the volume a HUGE amount for 20db and will be raising the signal to noise ratio in a very bad way for sound quality.
BTW illicit, Your MJ remix kick ass and the mastering quality sounds very pro (on my work computer speakers anyway). I'm gonna take the track home and relisten to it on my monitors so I can see if I hear any problems in a studio environment. |
alright in reason, if i put gain on 20 or so, i can hear the difference in the sound, but if i put it on 4 i hardly hear any...
now my question(for the reason users) is 1 gain equally 1 db? |
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| Tom_cowan |
| Naah, i think theve ed up the scale in reason. Anyway, dont get bogged down in how much to boost and drop by, just do it by ear. To much drop and your gonna take to much away from the sound, to little and your gonna get muddy. When a mix is muddy its when theres to much going on at any specific frequency. Thing is you can have less going on at low frequencies before its sounds muddy and progressivley more going on at higher frequencies, knows why, i kinda understand but thats just from my personal experience. You'l know when its muddy, just sounds wrong and to full. The thing which always amazed me about shokk/flutlicht is how full there tunes were without being muddy, knows how they managed it. That Reeverb guy who produces it all is god. |
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| Sirocco |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tranc3
Keep in mind that the Decibel rating system is based on a logarithmic scale (in base 10), meaning that each successive boost of 1 dB means the sound has been amplified 10 times...so a 1 dB boost means a 10* boost, a 4 dB boost means a 10,000* boost |
u sexy girl audiophile....
:haha: :haha: :haha: |
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| Phantax |
| what does rolloff refer to? and how do i know when it's best to cut or boost frequencies? |
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| FuzzyGreen |
| Rolling off refers to making the eq curve down from a certain point to -infinity db. basically it's a smooth logorithmic curve. |
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| Phantax |
| what is it's purpose? |
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| kewlness |
took the time to make some pictures (taken from fruity's parametric EQ)
not all the filters are shown but you should be able to figure out the rest
hope that helps ;) |
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| Jay M |
Indeed, Fruity Loops. One question:
Where this line "touches the ground", the sound (which you cut off) can still be heard, but then softer. With the band pass, the line goes under and even less is heared. Why is aren't the others "going under"?
(still following me? :D) |
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