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arctic
http://theage.com.au/articles/2004/...9199419655.html

What's everyone's reaction to this?

My immediate response was to blame China, but I later dismissed that as somewhat irrational and overly reactionary. I've always wanted to blame China for something. :p

Seriously though, it's interesting timing, the day before the presidential elections. What effect is this going to have on the upcoming vote? Is this likely to hand him the election on a silver platter?
imokruok
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Originally posted by arctic
What effect is this going to have on the upcoming vote? Is this likely to hand him the election on a silver platter?


A lot of the articles that I've read this morning say that many members of the population are blaming China. After all, in the weekend elections, there are basically two big questions on the ballot - the Presidential election, and a vote on whether Taiwan will further arm itself to defend against China.

So, if you believe the Taiwanese are like the Spaniards, they'll vote out President Chen Shui-bian and immediately ask China if they can rejoin the mainland. :D But they have more balls than that. It could kick a lot of swing voters over to the Nationalist party.
St_Andrew
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Originally posted by imokruok
A lot of the articles that I've read this morning say that many members of the population are blaming China. After all, in the weekend elections, there are basically two big questions on the ballot - the Presidential election, and a vote on whether Taiwan will further arm itself to defend against China.


that would be too obvious done by china, and it would/will increase his votes with 99% certainly... probably just some commie freak that felt he had to do something :D
arctic
Well, the results are in and it looks like the incumbent party managed to scrape in. The opposition is evidently annoyed and wants the result annulled.

Oh the drama. :thepirate
St_Andrew
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Originally posted by arctic
Well, the results are in and it looks like the incumbent party managed to scrape in. The opposition is evidently annoyed and wants the result annulled.

Oh the drama. :thepirate


yeah kind of agree with them. it's not fair to have an election after such an event. lika it was not fair to have the election just after the bombings in madrid, or after the murder of anna lindh in sweden... yeah there is pretty many examples... :(

btw, get tux back to your avatar, hate that bsd deamon :p
mndeg
im pro green, i think china wants to buy or take over taiwan, which is very very very rediculous
it's like britain coming back 200 years later and saying hi we own you give me free stuff plz!!
and the blue party is making taiwan look bad by bringing this into the mainstream media (their crying)
if bush or kerry was shot before elections i dont think they would suspend it, i mean why would someone being shot make you want to vote for them?
mndeg
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Originally posted by imokruok
A lot of the articles that I've read this morning say that many members of the population are blaming China. After all, in the weekend elections, there are basically two big questions on the ballot - the Presidential election, and a vote on whether Taiwan will further arm itself to defend against China.

So, if you believe the Taiwanese are like the Spaniards, they'll vote out President Chen Shui-bian and immediately ask China if they can rejoin the mainland. :D But they have more balls than that. It could kick a lot of swing voters over to the Nationalist party.


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So, if you believe the Taiwanese are like the Spaniards, they'll vote out President Chen Shui-bian and immediately ask China if they can rejoin the mainland. But they have more balls than that. It could kick a lot of swing voters over to the Nationalist party.
no one in taiwan wants to join with china lol, not even the blue party, the green is just more agressive against it

CNN:HONG KONG, China (CNN) -- Beijing is mapping out strategies to undermine the authority of the controversially re-elected President Chen Shui-bian -- and to position itself as the real champion of Taiwan's 23 million people.
Yoepus
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Originally posted by arctic
Well, the results are in and it looks like the incumbent party managed to scrape in. The opposition is evidently annoyed and wants the result annulled.


hmm, I wonder what that must feel like:conf:

:toothless :stongue:

oh I can't wait till this gets to their supreme court. I'm tering with joy:nervous: :disbelief
St_Andrew
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3573605.stm

300 000 - 500 000 people demonstrating...
Heinz
that candidate is a dangerous man to have as president, with his harsh views of china, and his future rants against china. i hope he can face china's 2 million man armed forces...and that just active duty...

arctic
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Originally posted by Heinz
that candidate is a dangerous man to have as president, with his harsh views of china, and his future rants against china. i hope he can face china's 2 million man armed forces...and that just active duty...


Ok, firstly, do you believe that China has a legitimate claim on Taiwan, and if so, would it be justified in using force to invade Taiwan?

Personally, I hold the view that the Chinese government is a bunch of despicable ratbags, and that they have no legitimate claim on Taiwan. I can't see them ever invading Taiwan, mainly because of the US support that Taiwan enjoys. The Taiwanese army is essentially comprised of US technology and equipment, and although their population is much smaller to that of China, I'm a bit sceptical of China's capacity to effectively transport a large invasion force. Further to that, when I look at it, for China the risks would outweigh the gains in my opinion, the international condemnation that would result from such a move wouldn't be worth the end result. In short, I think that Chen is right on the money, and that China should basically keep it's nose out of Taiwanese affairs.
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