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FL users with m-audio phile 2496........
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midaV
Heres the situation....

When I have about like 8-10 vsti's open in fruity loops and they are all playing at the same time, everything becomes fuzzy. Im guessing it cant buffer fast enough which is why it does that?

Because let's say for instance I open vstation and I use it for pads, and then I also want to use it for a bassline. I then have to open ANOTHER vstation just to perform for the bassline.. so now I have 2 vstations open.. by the time im done making a song i have like 10 vsti's open in frutiy.. is there anyway around this, to output the dif. sounds from one vsti onto dif channels?

I have a sound blaster Audigy 2 that runs on ASIO support at a rate of 48000'hz'.... and im thinking of getting the 'm-audiophile 2496'. Would this rid me of my misery?

My computer is P4 3.2 with 1 gig of ram so that shoudlnt reall be a problem..

Suggestions please..
JP8000Lover
http://www.fxfreeze.com

Try FX Freeze. It should help. I have a 2496 card too - beats the audigy cos it's GIGA compatible!!!

Other suggestions-

Bounce your VSTi/DXi tracks to wav files then import them into your midi file.

Cheers!
midaV
That's a pretty cool program, and really nice idea about recording the melodies as a wav. file and exporting them into tracks...

But Question... if I record a piano tune lets say as a 'wav.' in fruity.. export it in 160 bit quality.. and I export it back into fruity and use it as a track... it would make the size of the file very large just because of that one clip right? (considering that wav files are very large)
JP8000Lover
Once you bounce your tracks to a wav file and them import them back into the project, it will make your project size very large. That's the only bad thing about importing entire tracks as wavs. But the tradeoff is that you free up your cpu for other instruments. When I want more than 2 instruments from my JP-8000, I record a track as audio, import it into my project, and I have another patch for the JP-8000. I don't do this very often, but when certain conditions arise, I always choose having a large project rather than loosing an instrument.
BeatSMiTH
Wow, even with a pimpin computer like that, u're still running low on resources? I never would of thought...
FuzzyGreen
This is one of the many reasons why I can't produce entire songs in Fruity Loops. It's just too difficult to work with wav files in it. Instead I use Sonar 2.2 and just use fruity as one instrument. Then I can add tons of effects to just one track, export to wav, import into Sonar and move to the next track without slowing down the system.

BTW, the amount of effects you can use in one song has nothing to do with your sound card, but rather processing (CPU) power. The latency of a sound card refers to how fast it reacts to a imput change (midi or controller movement).
midaV
Would the same thing occur if I used same amount of vsti's in cubase?

and how would the m-audiophile take effect if I were to get it? (cleaner sounds?..etc)
JP8000Lover
VSTi's should use the same amount of cpu no matter which host they run under.

Audigy 2 vs Audiophile 2496
They are VERY similar cards. However, here are the pros and cons.

Audigy 2
Pros: widely used, great driver support, solid card, tight latency
Cons: Can't use Gigastudio

Audiophile 2496
Pros: clean and crisp, specifically made for audio composing, can use Gigastudio
Cons: no equalizer, a bit more difficult to use than the Audigy
If you aren't using Gigastudio, I'd say the Audigy is the slightly better card. I have both and I need the Audiophile for Gigastudio. I've had no problems with the Audiophile (except I actually had to read the instructions to understand how it records audio input and internal audio simultaneously) As for sound quality, they are so similar I can't tell the difference. With the Audiophile, there is no EQ, so I can't increase the bass to really piss off the neighbors at 2am when I'm playing Aliens vs Predator 2!! :tongue2

My opinion, if you need Gigastudio (and YOU NEED it!!!!!) then get the Audiophile. If you don't stick with the Audigy 2. No need throwing money away if the difference is trivial.
JP8000Lover
One other thing - try reducing the ASIO output to 44kHz. This should reduce some demand on your card during playback.
alanzo
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Originally posted by BeatSMiTH
Wow, even with a pimpin computer like that, u're still running low on resources? I never would of thought...


it's true.. I've got a 2.8Ghz 800MHZ FSB with an Audiophile 2496. It starts to lag a bit in Cubase SX 2.0 after I have about 5 or so VSTis loaded with FX.. then I have to start freezing the instruments...

midaV
What's gigastudio?
JP8000Lover
GigaStudio is only the best software sampler on the market!

HALion - OWNED
Kontakt - OWNED
VSampler - OWNED
all others - OWNED

GigaStudio (GS) is SO easy to use. The GUI is amazingly simple, but it's very powerful. From my experience with other samplers and GS, GS is, by far, the fastest sampler to use in terms of loading samples and previewing them. When making music, I want my time spent composing rather than dealing with loading samples. For example, I spend more time in VSampler loading samples and correctly importing them than I do previewing them. GS allows a double-click on a sample and BOOM! - it's loaded! SIMLPE!! In April Tascam is releasing GS3 which is rewire compatible. What does that mean? It means you can bounce all GS tracks to wav, just like a VSTi or DXi and insert VST or DX plugins on it's output channels. Plus there are some major upgrades for creating complicated samples.

http://www.tascamgiga.com/intro.php
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