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Producers with drawn out productions
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| DeleriuM2K |
I hate it when theres an awesome track that has 5 full minutes of pure percussion before any melody kicks in
Luke Chable is typical of having this in his productions.. he has some amazing tracks, but I hate how he puts in soooo much percussion for minutes and minutes
as well I wish some producers would put their main melodies in before the 4 minute mark... as a DJ I find it annoying cause I dont wanna stick on a certain track for 8 or 9 minutes
who agrees with me? |
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| Frase |
| well as a dj you should be competant to mix them out at the time you want. The producers just do the tracks how they want, if it doesnt fit in with your set, dont play it. Simple :) |
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| montie |
i quite disagree
i like it
as frase said, as a DJ you should be competent enough to mix out of the songs whenever you feel like it. thats one of hte main reasons the producers make them so long, so you have more time to use. |
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| starglider |
I don't even DJ and I love listening to a track that takes a while to get going. Trance is all about the layering of repetitive components and the gradual progression of the piece. You mentioned Luke Chable; he's very good at this. Take his recent track "The Shepherd". It's about 9 and a half minutes long and doesn't break for about 4 minutes. It then continues to build and finally takes off after 6 minutes or so.
Would the track be as powerful, as effective, if it cut straight to the climax a minute in? Of course not. The buildup is everything. Just listen to Infusion's Running Up That Hill, it's got a 6 and a half minute buildup. Cass & Slide's Perception, a full 7 minutes... etc. It works... |
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| Wretched |
| Three Drives - Sunset on Ibiza is a great example of this - a long buildup to a classic melody. |
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| DeleriuM2K |
of course I can mix out whenever need be, however I like the people listening to get the climax of the track. Of course I could cue the track to the 2 min mark or whatever, but then I'm starting at a point with heavy percussion and the mix will not be as smooth
Im not say one minute of beats then breakdown then buildup then drop.
3, 4, minutes is enough
oh well, Luke is a great producer anyways, I find hes one of the only ones that does this so often with his music |
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| Algenis |
| quote: | Originally posted by Wretched
Three Drives - Sunset on Ibiza is a great example of this - a long buildup to a classic melody. |
actaully, in the versions I've heard the main melody starts like 1 minute after the track starts :conf: |
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| Boomer187 |
I start songs with long intros earlier than normal. that way you can mix in the softer elements early and when it builds up there is no noticable difference.
eh, that didn't sound like it made sense...but I think you get the picture. instead of starting at teh 2 min mark....start 2 mins before you normally would. or some variation there of.
or not. I suck anyways, so.....
I need to learn how to end my replies...it never works. |
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| Wretched |
| quote: | Originally posted by Algenis
actaully, in the versions I've heard the main melody starts like 1 minute after the track starts :conf: |
In the original release the melody begins at the 3:56 mark. Maybe you've only heard it live? DJ's tend to cut out a large majority of the beginning simply because it doesn't have the same energy that the melody does. |
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| DeleriuM2K |
| quote: | Originally posted by Wretched
In the original release the melody begins at the 3:56 mark. Maybe you've only heard it live? DJ's tend to cut out a large majority of the beginning simply because it doesn't have the same energy that the melody does. |
well its not cut out, its just not noticed because its being mixed |
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| auujay |
| quote: | Originally posted by DeleriuM2K
well its not cut out, its just not noticed because its being mixed |
It is still effectivly cut out if they aren't even starting the transition untill the 2 in mark.
I have noticed that DJ Ton TB does this a lot in his productions and it feels a little more out of place than it does in progressive tracks. |
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| Wretched |
| Yeah, but the A&B melody pales in comparisson. |
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