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Does anyone think that starting the iraq war was the right decision?
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| St_Andrew |
| Just curious :) |
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| Galapidate |
| I think the poll results right now pretty much explain it :P |
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| NeoPhono |
| I claim minority status. |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by St_Andrew
Just curious :) |
yes. |
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| igottaknow |
^--- I think we can safely deduce which 2 voted in favor :haha:
*cough *cough |
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| NYCTrancefan |
| it was seriously lacking and misguided in purpose and goals. Presenting no solution to terrorism and no achievements in establishing the presence of those vaunted WMD's in Iraq. Still our president insists it was worthwile to go to war:rolleyes: |
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| DaveSZ |
It's quite clear that Afghanistan was not a war of choice, and was indeed a necessary war. The Iraq war was sold to the public on the basis of over 200 lies and misleading statements - some so outrageous that they should have immediately raised a red flag. Members of both major US political parties are to blame, but ultimately the buck stops with W.
Mosaic of soldiers killed in Iraq (some obviously must be repetitions based on the math):
http://photomatt.net/dropbox/2004/04/warpresMED.jpg
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
I claim minority status. |
I thought you were a "libertarian."
You're anti-women's choice, pro-war, and pro-big government
(and anti-constitution) when it comes to handing government checks to Pat Robertson. That makes you about as "libertarian" as Neal Boortz. :D
I'm sorry, that’s not a personal attack, but I just get tired of these faux “libertarians” on the radio. |
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| NeoPhono |
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveSZ
I thought you were a "libertarian."
You're anti-women's choice, pro-war, and pro-big government
(and anti-constitution) when it comes to handing government checks to Pat Robertson. That makes you about as "libertarian" as Neal Boortz. :D
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Wow. I support our efforts in Iraq, so all of the sudden not only am I not libertarian, I'm in fact all of those other things? Interesting. |
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| DigiNut |
| Of course Neo - in order to support freedom you must also support feminism, multiculturalism, free education for convicted felons, gay rights, negotiations with terrorists, unconditional welfare, the universal authority of the U.N., hefty donations to 3rd-world countries who will spend the money on bombs and tanks... did I miss any other radical left-wing inventions? |
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| DaveSZ |
| quote: | Originally posted by NeoPhono
Wow. I support our efforts in Iraq, so all of the sudden not only am I not libertarian, I'm in fact all of those other things? Interesting. |
Supporting the troops does not mean supporting a war built upon lies simultaneously.
I was only repeating the opinions on those issues that you had stated previously, albeit in my own words.
However, consider this issue, as of now, a non-issue.
http://www.lp.org/press/archive.php...view&record=634
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Libertarians issue statement on U.S. invasion of Iraq
WASHINGTON, DC -- Statement by Geoffrey Neale, national chairman of the Libertarian Party, in response to the U.S. invasion of Iraq:
On behalf of the Libertarian Party, I wish to express our deep concern for the U.S. troops currently engaged in war in Iraq, and urge the government to end the conflict quickly and with as few casualties as possible.
Though it is difficult for Americans who have never fought in battle to imagine a soldier’s fear and bravery, it is easy to imagine the anguish that every family will feel for their sons and daughters who never return.
For that reason it is essential that the government make every effort to minimize casualties on both sides in this conflict.
Libertarians believe that all Americans should give moral support to our troops, and we urge those who are opposed to the war not to blame soldiers for the misjudgments of politicians.
Sadly, this war may extract horrific costs not only from governments and soldiers but from American society. More terrorist acts may yet be committed inside our borders; relationships with our friends and allies could be forever diminished; and the financial costs of war could be catastrophic to an already stumbling economy.
Because Libertarians believe in limited, constitutional government, we are disappointed that President Bush declined to seek a formal declaration of war as clearly required by Article I, Section 8 of that document. By acquiescing to the president, Congress has abdicated its responsibility as well.
The Libertarian Party also urges the administration to abandon its plans for an occupation of Iraq -- a policy that would further inflame anti-American sentiment in the region without benefiting the United States in any way.
Though Mr. Bush promises that democracy will soon sprout from dictatorship in Iraq, the results of U.S. military involvement in Panama, Haiti, Kuwait, Afghanistan and other nations indicates that such promises are far easier to make than they are to keep.
Finally, we would remind the nation that the traditional American values of peace, freedom, and military non-intervention have served this country well in the past and should be embraced again.
To that end, we hope that our political leaders can summon the wisdom to bring our armed forces home from Iraq.
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| NeoPhono |
Yes, the Libertarian party is against many points pertaining to the War in Iraq. However, they are also for the complete removal of foreign aid as well as all domestic welfare. In short, I do not agree with everything the party has to say. I do not blindly adhere to all the points of the Libertarian party the same way I'm assuming most educated Democrats and Republicans do not agree with every stance of their parties. I do associate myself most closely with the Libertarian party, however.
But, if you're saying it's a non-issue, that's cool. I'm over it. :D
On a side note, I'll agree that I've stated my pro-life position and support of the Iraq involvement in the past, but where have I said that I am pro-big government? Maybe something I said was interpreted wrong, because I assure you I am very much against big government. (That's like hitting a libertarian below the belt ;) ) |
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