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| BeatSMiTH |
| Just curious to see wut u guys think actually constitues a trainwreck, as in how far aparts are the beats gonna be "galloping" before it is considered a trainwreck? |
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| auujay |
| If a non DJ can spot it then it is official :) |
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| Prodigy Child |
| quote: | Originally posted by auujay
If a non DJ can spot it then it is official :) |
I'd second that, but to be safe, you should DJ like everyone in the crowd is a DJ. |
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| auujay |
I know I can tell very quickly when my beats start to drift. This makes it really hard for me to be satisfied with the mixes I record (even though I am not "trainwrecking"). And now because my girlfriend hears me so much she can tell too (she is certainly not a DJ or really an EDM fan).
In the end it seems like everyone agrees that anyway should be able to notice a "trainwreck". I would say when it is at the point before a trainwreck but is still noticable (by anyone including DJs) than I would just call it "beats slipping/drifting" or "starting to get off". Both less harsh terms for pre-trainwrecking. You don't want to have them on a mix but in all seriousness, on a big system it would be hard to notice. |
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| dartman |
| i just have to reply....... seeing a title like "trainwrecks" i know that i have atleast something to input (as this is/ was a big part of my djing). nemesis44 described a trainwreck as "at total loss of control", i think this is a good definition of a trainwreck. if the beats drift a tad and you hear it and can fix it, its not a trainwreck. if they get out abit and you try to correct it but screw it up more but realize it and fix it quickly without too much fuss...... not really a trainwreck, but close. when all hell breaks loose and you cant control it at all and it sounds like an aircraft carrier, its a trainwreck. IMHO |
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| Boomer187 |
I think the better analogy would be to a plane. I mean everyone faces turbulance during a flight, same as your beats kinda go off, some more than others. But when you totally lose control of which is faster and slower and it sounds like complete ass, then your plane just hit the side of a mountain.
So I call it, plane crashing. |
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| BeatSMiTH |
| Kinda off the topic here, but here goes... When u're making a promo mix, are minor pre-trainwrecks ok? Like a slight gallop here and there? |
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| sash |
| quote: | Originally posted by BeatSMiTH
Kinda off the topic here, but here goes... When u're making a promo mix, are minor pre-trainwrecks ok? Like a slight gallop here and there? |
i'd want a promo mix to be perfect |
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| dstrukt |
| Putting together a promo mix can be so annoying when the tiniest thing goes wrong, levels, beats drop slightly, knock the tone arm etc... so many times ive had to go back and restart over and over |
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| Dizc |
I agree, your demo should be flawless. Consider this.. you're handing it out to professional promoters who hear sometimes hundreds of demos from all different scenes and areas of the city/country. If they're gonna take a risk in bringing you in to play at their event and PAY you good cash, they want to hear perfection. You want them to believe that this potential risk isn't a risk at all.
As for trainwrecks, I would consider a trainwreck a disaster of any kind (hence the name). As for beatmatching, the climax of this type of trainwreck would be best described as double beats. When the beats of one track are directly opposite the beats of the other. For example, instead of 4/4, you're playing 8/4.
I couple other easy examples of trainwrecks would be:
-Running out of track before you've completely mixed the next track in and you're left hanging with no beats, or sometimes, less or no volume at all!
-Hitting the needle during a mix or while the track is playing.
-Punching some Gino/Hoochie when they continually ask for Hip Hop during your set (not mixing related, but it still looks like a trainwreck when they crumple on the floor)
There's many forms of trainwrecks... and this definition would vary depending on who you talk to. It depends on the situation and the people listening. IMO, for a demo, a trainwreck is anything that will make me notice an unwelcome flow/change to my listening pattern. At a live event, most of these mistakes can be covered up very easily in the heat of the moment. When you're recording.. it's a whole other ballgame. |
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