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Pioneer CDJ1000MK2 vs. Technics SL-DZ1200 (pg. 2)
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The Don
how can anyone judge if they havent used both?

i think its fair to say that Pioneer are going to be hard to beat but until any of you have actually tried them instead of reading specs and commenting from that, then hold on to your opinions..:rolleyes:
DJ FireWire
quote:
Originally posted by brian
Yours must be beyond fux0red because mine can go in increments of .02.

For CDJ1000MK2s:
+/- 6% == 0.02 increment
+/- 10% == 0.05 increment
+/- 16% == 0.05 increment
+/- 100% == 0.5 increment


Ya, you're right. Sorry, I am not sure why I said something else before. I edited my post as well.
Inertia
ok, lets stop shooting opinions areound. none of us has used the techs, but we can still speculate.

i heard the few people that have tried the Technics said that they preferred the feel of the jogwheel on the Pioneer, because the Technics is a spinning one. some people prefer it to be spinning, but turntablists said they would rather have a stattic jogwheel because there is no counterforce. and if anyone is to be payed attention to in the matter of platters and jogwheels, i'd say it'd be turntablists.

i understand the Technics can also play mp3's, and other forms of media the Pioneer cannot. this is a plus for the Techs.

what i have not seen about the Technics decks is the extra featutrs, such as looping, reverse and such. i am sure the Pio can do looping in a bunch of ways, has a beat cutter than can be worked as a live sampler, saves your cue points in memory sticks, etc.

all in all, i think Pioneer will come out on top, with Techs close begind, but just not up to it yet. the next generation of Technics Digital CD Turntables will be the true contender.
brian
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Originally posted by Inertia
what i have not seen about the Technics decks is the extra featutrs, such as looping, reverse and such. i am sure the Pio can do looping in a bunch of ways, has a beat cutter than can be worked as a live sampler, saves your cue points in memory sticks, etc.


Indeed. The Pioneers can also do reverse -- at least the CDJ1000MK2's can. Not sure about the other models.
Dzokayi
The CDJ800 has reverse also... it's a button instead of a paddle switch on the CDJ1000. I prefer the switch...
Inertia
the 800s/1000s/1000Mk2's can all do reverse. and all the damn techniques you can employ to scratch, loop, beat juggle, the hot cue, its amazing. just go to a James Zabiela set and what him while he goes nuts and starts scratching. i though he was gonna break the thing.

not that most of us will use all the features, but when competing, theyre all plus for the Pio.
Scottaculous
Reportedly the Technics does not have a wave table on their LCD. If true, that simple fact alone makes the Pioneers better than the Technics.

Important features I look for in my CD players:
* Pitch increment .05 & .02
* Wave table so I can watch the peaks and valleys of the track
* Hot cues - In case you wanna do some tricks ;)
* Master tempo
hooj1
The Techs do not have a wave data display which sucks, but other than that they are pretty solid. I got to try them out at this years NAMM show, and I was very impressed....but I would still go with the Pioneer's because they are the standard at most clubs.
Transa.E.P
Démo vidéo SL-DZ1200

:eek: :eyes: :eyes: :eek:

Amazing!!!!
dj chex
On another forum that I'm on, dj-AL posted some sine wave audio tests on both the sl-dz1200 and the denon s-5000.

http://www.futureproducers.com/foru.../threadid/69101

After you listen to the scratch test, remember that digital music is made from many different tones and samples. What you should look for is artifacts while he scratches. Then compare the sl-dz1200 to the denon s-5000 than compare to actual vinyl.

Wildfir3
i'd say go for the pioneers, since they've proven themselves (© argument of all the technics lovers when asked which turntable to buy)
Dzokayi
Wildfir3, that was funny as hell...
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