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TYPES OF TRANCE: How to tell the difference (pg. 2)
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| Lost |
well then can someone make a TA guide for the uninformed such as myself. people always ask me what i spin and i usually say good music. and then they say no seriously. and i give them the generic answer of trance with some house and progressive. and then they say no seriously. and then i smile and walk away. :D it would be helpful for me if someone in the TA boards would take a shot at breakin it down but then maybe no one is trying cuz no one really knows. all i know is that i'm down with dj martijn's style although i have been getting into tribal lately.
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| discojoe |
Here is the way I see it:
There are really only a few main types of trance. Most of the examples you gave are just generic subgenres and were just made up by someone to describe a certain song.
"Vocal trance". What is it? Pretty self explanitory.. a trance song with words. If a dj plays "vocal trance" he simple likes to play songs with words.
I think the main question here is the difference between progressive and uplifting/euro/epic/club (basically all the same thing) trance. Euro-trance has two common elements.. build up and a climax and then usually a denoument (sp?). It may have either one or two climaxes but never 3. This is why it is uplifting - it builds and builds and then explodes. Progressive, on the other hand, has no traditional build up to a climax. It is much more like techno. It usually has the same types of simple samples and complex rhythms and beats. While euro-trance has simple beats and more of a concentration on melody. It could easily be confused with techno. However it is more progressive than techno. It starts off simple and then adds with more samples as time moves on. Which is why it is called progressive.
"PSYcadelic trance" or "goa" (usually grouped together but they are different) are a totally different sound from most trance. It is much faster and the baseline is much heavier. It is more warped, twisted and enchanting and it plays with your head.
I don't know much about house so I won't try and explain that.
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| onE24-7 |
i'm so glad some1 finally asked this question! i mean it is getting ridicilous... what's what????
so here is my question: is progressive house trance?????(the statement is a contradiction in itself!)
and can someone delve into more detail about house...or at least give a good website cuz that guy ishkur sounds like a snob...
thanx...:conf: :toothless :D |
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| Ian Maury |
I think that Trance gets broken up into many different subgenres because there is so much variety in Trance music. I mean, if you listen to most other genres, the music is fairly similar (in prevalence of instruments, beat, etc). But in trance, since so many different sounds can be created electronically, the music tends to vary as much as Metal and Country do.
So...I think it is a good idea to categorize the different types of trance. Especially so that we may eliminate the 'Total Hor Trance' from tarnishing trance.
This isn't to say that I want DJs to stick to one style. In fact, I prefer to hear a set that samples from a range of different styles.
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| mindshooter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Martijn
im not good with the names but my fave kind is the stuff that goes somewhere..if u like progresses..and goes mental at 1 point.
eg. lightforce-join me
faithless-insomnia
veracocha-carte blanche....u no what i mean?!
i think its either epic trance or progressive?!i dunno.:( |
Your quite far out here.....
Veracocha is one of the most uplifting trax you can get....and lightforce to...... as discojoe nicely explained before....uplifting
trance builds up to a climax and then explodes....Veracocha must be one of the nicest examples of that :) |
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| Metabeing |
heres my opinion on the matter...
Uplifting trance - has a mellow steady bass line...nothing to hard. Then high pitched mellow synths kick in, maybe violin or something. Also a womans angelic voice can be found. It breaks down to near silence then builds up with those synths and no bass. Bass drops back in. Try anything Gouryella...PVD...Rank 1. kamaya painters
Progressive Trance - Same steady synths as above. But this time a bit more of a hard pounding bass line to it. A bit faster than uplifting/emo. Probably around 140 bpm or so. This will also break down to near silence, but never really gets to the point of pure synths hands in the air head back eyes close breathing in the music feel. Try Push is a pretty good example.
Goa/ Psy trance - Obvious
House - None of those synths (more of a filler sound of synths than anything)...a down and dirty sick bassline that carries you all the way through the track. This gets your body pounding...not flowing. Not that much knowledge of example here but try stuff Carl Cox spun
Tek-House - (My fav) Has the same kind of house beat in it. Some nice gritty techno cuts not too much though. A minimalist approach if you will. Drop in some synths an certain moments and only for brief periods of time. These never really stick through the song. In my mind Picotto's productions are tek-house...as with alot of BXR. Virtua Trancer also fits here i think.
Progressive House - NOT TRANCE! This is like Darude. Slamming beats all the way through with a thick as fog, dirty bass line. Bumps at like 142 bpm. There is nothing mellow about this. If there are synths in this (most of the time there are) its hard hitting synths almost to the sound of tech...but not quite.
Garage - This one is easy...imagine you are playing music with stuff you find in your garage. Presto.
Tribal- Self Explainatory.
Now this is what ive picked up from spinning and what people say. When knowlegdeable people like other djs ask what i spin i use the above but when any joe schmoe asks i just say trance. Anyways, the music is what you make it. Christ garage can be uplifting if you want it to be. Hope this helps.
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| mindshooter |
| Hmmm yeah....but i woulndt call Push progressive....i think puch is kidna hard-uplifting.....and i woulndt call darude Progressive-house...cause shouldnt taht mean that darude is a combination ofprogressive and house? I would say its Uplifting..... a cheesy one...cause it has it all....the melody the harmony...the silence in the middle...and then the break! |
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| Metabeing |
| quote: | Originally posted by mindshooter
Hmmm yeah....but i woulndt call Push progressive....i think puch is kidna hard-uplifting.....and i woulndt call darude Progressive-house...cause shouldnt taht mean that darude is a combination ofprogressive and house? I would say its Uplifting..... a cheesy one...cause it has it all....the melody the harmony...the silence in the middle...and then the break! |
But by the definition i used Push being hard uplifting makes it progressive...as for darude it doesnt have the synths only breakdown and when it does its still a hard hitting breakdown...also it moves fast and has too hard of a beat to be uplifting....
This is an example for why trance shouldnt be broken into groups like it is...no one has the same opinions about what somehting should be. Like i said everyone has their own taste and definition. You choose wha it is (I realize that i am being hypocritical by saying that as i just yelled at someone for having their own opinion.)
*Slaps his own wrists and walks to the corner with his head down to think about what he did*
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| mindshooter |
Yeah your right...trance is all about opinions.........but i dont know how hard-uplifting can be progressive....cause they have differemnt bildups.....i really dont like progressive...still i love push.... And i dont know really what you mean with darude....what does everybody else thinks? Is Darude cheesy-uplifting or proggressive house?
This is not a flame :) |
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| Dj Martijn |
| quote: | Originally posted by mindshooter
Your quite far out here.....
Veracocha is one of the most uplifting trax you can get....and lightforce to...... as discojoe nicely explained before....uplifting
trance builds up to a climax and then explodes....Veracocha must be one of the nicest examples of that :) |
ah thats the 1..can some 1 not give me some really good classic examples of uplinfting?or a site where i can get some from..imo uplifting is the best kinda trance by far |
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| Lapinou |
Hello
First let me than you all for these explanation ... I only knew about uplifting trance since it's the kind of trance I like the most ... There's still a little thing that may require further explanation for me : epic trance ... I don't think any post explains what it is, or maybe I missed it ?
Thanx
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| mindshooter |
| quote: | Originally posted by Dj Martijn
ah thats the 1..can some 1 not give me some really good classic examples of uplinfting?or a site where i can get some from..imo uplifting is the best kinda trance by far |
Uplifting Classix:
Airscape - Lésperanza
Art of trance - Breathe
Apoptygma berzerk - KathysSong (F.Corsten mix)
Delirium - Silence (DJ Tiesto mix)
DJ Tiesto - Sparkles (Transa Remix)
Fire & Ice - LostEmotions2001
Fire & Ice - Souvenir de chine (from now on ;))
Gouryella - Gourella
Gouryella - Walhalla
Gouryella - Tenshi
Jan Johnston - Flesh (Tiesto mix)
Lost tribe - Gamemaster
Moogwai - Viola (Armin Van Buuren Remix)
Rank 1 - Airwave
Solar stone - Seven cities (Solar stone's atlantis mix)
Veracocha - Carte blance
You can always DL my track of the week to ;)
Its always a nice uplifting one.... just search AG for it... |
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