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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
Sometimes I think the world would be a better place if people stopped caring for one another :eek:
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I really hope that either I've misunderstood you or you're kidding.
In fact, if you're in Israel you should know better than anyone else what egoism and intolerance can do :( |
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
I really hope that either I've misunderstood you or you're kidding.
In fact, if you're in Israel you should know better than anyone else what egoism and intolerance can do :( |
ahh n000b alert.:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
Sound the alarm!
Where is my trusty gaurd dog as seen in the caricature of my online presense sterotype as kindly pointed out by tahti when you need him??:conf:
shoo n00b ! shoo! :whip: |
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| arctic |
| quote: | Originally posted by DaveSZ
I cut and pasted it from a left-wing blog, and indeed it may be taken out of context. I'll try to find the speech where he said that, so we can evaluate the context. Kerry is pretty much a centrist (though to the left of Clinton, Dean and Gore), but I support him because I recognize the need to get the Fundies out of office to save America. I'm actually registered as an independent. |
It's no big deal, I just didn't see what you saw when reading the quote. I would probably say that Kerry is centrist or slightly to the right (at present) - he's certainly not leftist by European standards. Lastly, I don't know where you're getting the idea that he's left of Dean from, what do you base that on? |
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| Lira |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
ahh n000b alert.:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
Sound the alarm!
Where is my trusty gaurd dog as seen in the caricature of my online presense sterotype as kindly pointed out by tahti when you need him??:conf:
shoo n00b ! shoo! :whip: |
You know, I don't have to go back in the mod's forum to check that you were actually in Texas... but I did because actually care about others :)
Would the world be a better place if we cared less about others? Think about the suspension you could get if I were an immature bastard ;) |
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| arctic |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
ahh n000b alert.:eyes: :eyes: :eyes: |
LOL! :p
Yoepus, I've seen do and say some downright hilarious & idiotic things over the past year, but calling a mod (who registered the year before you) a n00b defiantly takes the cake. :stongue:
Maaz: you probably don't realize it, but most of comrade Yoepus' posts are either tongue in cheek or blatant sarcasm, although he does make serious posts sometimes - he once made one telling us that he was a republican communist. Or was that a joke...
Bah now I'm confused. :whip: |
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| Nautilus |
Nader's ego has grown to large as of late. He should stick to his consumer rights lobbying and drop out of the race, otherwise he'll steal votes that should be going to Kerry just like he robbed Gore of precious votes.
DIE NADER! |
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| Yoepus |
| quote: | Originally posted by Lira
You know, I don't have to go back in the mod's forum to check that you were actually in Texas... but I did because actually care about others :)
Would the world be a better place if we cared less about others? Think about the suspension you could get if I were an immature bastard ;) |
Well it does say I'm "Evil" in my profile.
Just trying to live it up:p
Damn it... need to pay more attention to who's actually a mod. Guess I should step out of the polit forum every now and then:eek:
Still the 'n00b' comment was directed as your status in the polit forum. Clearly you aren't a n00b. - we've just had an influx of them recently and they are making polit forum seem worse than the old Chill Out political debates. I have a reputation to live up to here ya know :p
As for the question:
I believe there are two different types of "caring about others", the direct compasion, and indriect compasion. Indirect compasion is more logicial and harsh, and is often blockaded by direct compasion -emotion and humane views.
For instance going to war in Iraq is indirect compasion but caring for Iraqi pyramaid builders is direct compasion.
These are I think the fundamental difference between most philosophical/political viewpoints. Its not that people dont' care about each other - its how they care. And I personally would prefer to see more indirect compasion than direct compasion then we do today - I think it would in the end make the world a more peaceful place - something we all want. |
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| Lira |
It's all good, Yoepus :) I didn't know you were being sarcastic (as you and arctic pointed out) and I only mentioned my modship for comedy's sake (or in case you were serious), because it had been the first time I've ever been called a noob.
I used to be more active here though (when the political forum didn't have more than a couple of pages), but then there was too much reading here to do and I hardly ever read the threads about Middle East, so that's why probably you seldom see me posting here :p
Just in case, take a look at this so you won't have problems with bitter mods in the future :D |
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| YaleTrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by Yoepus
ahh n000b alert.:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:
Sound the alarm!
Where is my trusty gaurd dog as seen in the caricature of my online presense sterotype as kindly pointed out by tahti when you need him??:conf:
shoo n00b ! shoo! :whip: |
You're calling Maaz a noob? :rolleyes:
And this is coming from a person who has never contributed to anything related to trance or edm, and instead is dedicated to spewing xenophobic and McConservative propaganda in this forum.
You want to talk about noobs? Have a discussion about music with Maaz and you'll see who the noob is.
IMO the people that post exclusively in Political Discussion should be banned. Especially when their views are so full of hate and shallowness.  |
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| MisterOpus1 |
| quote: | Originally posted by YaleTrance
You're calling Maaz a noob? :rolleyes:
And this is coming from a person who has never contributed to anything related to trance or edm, and instead is dedicated to spewing xenophobic and McConservative propaganda in this forum.
You want to talk about noobs? Have a discussion about music with Maaz and you'll see who the noob is.
IMO the people that post exclusively in Political Discussion should be banned. Especially when their views are so full of hate and shallowness. |
Do you not see the slight contradiction in your last sentence?
Yoepus made a little oopsie. Sorry, but big ing deal? Lira knew it was a little oopsie, Yoepus apologized for the little oopsie, and that was the end of it. Do you honestly feel that you have made a contribution of any sort pointing this out any further, especially with the attitude that you brought with it?
I disagree with Yoepus in nearly everything, yet I still have a high regard for his opinion. There are a handful of us here that frequent other forums but give little input to those forums. Does that make us musically or socially inferior in your eyes? And if so, should I be panicking right now because of my inferiority?
There was a thread about this some time ago, and I failed to give my input in it, but my feelings about posting in other forums are probably similar to Yoepus' or most others here - there's a sincere amount of immaturity in the other main forums. There's only so many ing times I can read, "OMFG I DIE when I hear that tune!", or "should I eat out my gf more" followed by a "Pics or STFU!". Furthermore, there's only a finite amount of times I sent myself scrambling across the internet or in my own .mp3 collection trying to identify the Paul van Dyk's 5th song in some ing rave, let alone commenting on how great that damn ing repetitive beat is over and over and over and over and over.....
The one area that has maintained my interest, however, is the Political forum. A variety of views all across the world are poured into this forum nonstop, some mesh well while others clash hard. It is extremely interesting to me to hear all sorts of viewpoints, as well as debate those points that I disagree with at any level. In short, it is quite intellectually stimulating to be here, something from which I tend to find the other threads lacking.
That's not to say I haven't done those things, nor is it to say that I think it's "stupid" or "unnecessary" to comment in other forums. It's just no longer my cup of tea. Call it a phase, call it a life's moment of trying to be someone in a pretty eclectic forum and community, the point is I'm over it. I still love the music, I love the dance culture, and I sincerely wish the best for it. But I tend to find those old conversations are not only repetitive, but they are simply not very stimulating anymore. Again, not my cup of tea.
I hope that's okay with you, though I certainly won't lose any sleep if it's not. |
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| YaleTrance |
| quote: | Originally posted by MisterOpus1
Do you not see the slight contradiction in your last sentence?
Yoepus made a little oopsie. Sorry, but big ing deal? Lira knew it was a little oopsie, Yoepus apologized for the little oopsie, and that was the end of it. Do you honestly feel that you have made a contribution of any sort pointing this out any further, especially with the attitude that you brought with it? |
I reckon that he apologized and that this thread was practically dead, but I was standing up for my friend because it angered me to see someone like Yoepus attack his character like that. In my experience and from what I've read, Yoepus spews hate and shallow anti-European propaganda. I have respect for conservatives, but not for one that demeans my culture (like he did on the Madrid bombings thread).
| quote: | | I disagree with Yoepus in nearly everything, yet I still have a high regard for his opinion. There are a handful of us here that frequent other forums but give little input to those forums. Does that make us musically or socially inferior in your eyes? And if so, should I be panicking right now because of my inferiority? |
No, but I find it awfully suspicious when someone registers on TA and posts exclusively on this forum. I admit that this will strike me more when I read a post that I find offensive.
| quote: | | There was a thread about this some time ago, and I failed to give my input in it, but my feelings about posting in other forums are probably similar to Yoepus' or most others here - there's a sincere amount of immaturity in the other main forums. There's only so many ing times I can read, "OMFG I DIE when I hear that tune!", or "should I eat out my gf more" followed by a "Pics or STFU!". Furthermore, there's only a finite amount of times I sent myself scrambling across the internet or in my own .mp3 collection trying to identify the Paul van Dyk's 5th song in some ing rave, let alone commenting on how great that damn ing repetitive beat is over and over and over and over and over..... |
There is a sincere amount of immaturity in this forum as well. Actually, this is the reason why I don't post in here as much as I could. Politics is my second passion after music.
And also, music discussion has been host to many deep and meaningful discussions regarding music history and the musicology of edm. These discussions make TA the important medium that it is, as a useful way to discern global trends in music and edm culture, having a huge impact on the current evolution of the scene and general taste. Most of the posts might seem useless, but many have a useful purpose.
| quote: | | The one area that has maintained my interest, however, is the Political forum. A variety of views all across the world are poured into this forum nonstop, some mesh well while others clash hard. It is extremely interesting to me to hear all sorts of viewpoints, as well as debate those points that I disagree with at any level. In short, it is quite intellectually stimulating to be here, something from which I tend to find the other threads lacking. |
I think it's great that this forum exists. And I would post more if it weren't for time constraints.
You're one of the few people that I agree with most of the time, so I feel kind of bad that you have attacked me.
| quote: | That's not to say I haven't done those things, nor is it to say that I think it's "stupid" or "unnecessary" to comment in other forums. It's just no longer my cup of tea. Call it a phase, call it a life's moment of trying to be someone in a pretty eclectic forum and community, the point is I'm over it. I still love the music, I love the dance culture, and I sincerely wish the best for it. But I tend to find those old conversations are not only repetitive, but they are simply not very stimulating anymore. Again, not my cup of tea.
I hope that's okay with you, though I certainly won't lose any sleep if it's not. |
To each his own, and please understand the context of my criticism of Yoepus. Frankly, I think it's fine if people post mostly on Political Discussion. But I can't help being suspicious of the intentions of someone like Yoepus. Every TA should have a connection to edm culture, even if it's remote or minimal. It wouldn't be very constructive to see random football or basketball fans registering to TA just to post on the sports discussion if they don't have any interest in trance or edm culture. That's my only point. |
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