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Can mp3's degenerate? (pg. 2)
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Vizay
as said before...if it was a virus it would do a lot more then just adding a pop here and there so that's probably not the problem

bad sectors could in theory be the problem but the chance that it just affects a few mp3's here and there and nothing else is practically somewhere around zero :)

my guessing would be that it's either soundcardrelated, an error in your download or a bad rip

sometimes when you rip a CD glitches and pops can occur if the CD your ripping from skips...
as you probably know the laser reads the CD while it's spinning (duh ;)). Sometimes the laser miss due to something (try bumping and shaking your CD-player while ripping and you'll know what I mean), everytime the laser misses the CD has to spin a whole lap to get back to where it was...this is what causes glitches and pops while ripping

now I know that was a poor explanation but I think you get it anyway :)
dj prometheus
im not extremely computer techy but I also believe it could be a soundcard problem.Either that or your processor is working too hard (unlikely if you have at least a pentium 2).Is it only that tune that does it?You said something about your older tunes doing it too.

1)Do a scan disk in your system tools and see how many bytes are in bad sectors.It gives you a report after its done so check it.
2) are you listening to it on headphones?If so that connection might be screwed up as well making it seem that there are a few small glitches.

well thats the best I can suggest I hope it might help
Cosmic Energy
virus can infect any file, even *.doc, it depends only on the virus itself....
but not Access ones :D
seriously, try to 1) find bad sectors and cure them (norton disk doctor)
2) defrag (speedisk :))
Vizay
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Originally posted by Cosmic Energy
virus can infect any file, even *.doc, it depends only on the virus itself....


infect yeah but not spread, and as I pointed out earlier...if there was a virus destroying mp3's it would probably do a lot more then just adding a few glitches in like 5 songs :p
halo
quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Energy
virus can infect any file, even *.doc, it depends only on the virus itself....
but not Access ones :D
seriously, try to 1) find bad sectors and cure them (norton disk doctor)
2) defrag (speedisk :))


You obviously don't understand why .doc virii work. They work because MS Word does not only rely on file extensions but also checks format headers. .dot files are automated documents. They may contain macros that are also able, to access your harddiscs. If you open .dot's they will create the resulting document on opening, .dot or .doc the result is a document but .dot execute code for that. Now rename your .dot virus to .doc and noone can tell the difference.

As for Mp3's... same thin applies for MediaPlayer. There were problems like with MP 6.4 enabling attackers to run code from .asf files. By renaming this to .mp3 you would have an MP3 virus. But then again. MP does check file Formats and tell you that the extension doesn't correspond.
Cosmic Energy
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Originally posted by halo
You obviously don't understand why .doc virii work. They work because MS Word does not only rely on file extensions but also checks format headers. .dot files are automated documents. They may contain macros that are also able, to access your harddiscs. If you open .dot's they will create the resulting document on opening, .dot or .doc the result is a document but .dot execute code for that. Now rename your .dot virus to .doc and noone can tell the difference.

As for Mp3's... same thin applies for MediaPlayer. There were problems like with MP 6.4 enabling attackers to run code from .asf files. By renaming this to .mp3 you would have an MP3 virus. But then again. MP does check file Formats and tell you that the extension doesn't correspond.


Hey Halo I do understand and the ".doc" was just an example, look here further please.
I even thought first to write smth like ".asdf" but wrote ".doc" because it's much more decent file extension, oknpexcuseme? :)
It's something like was a long time ago in MS-DOS,
if you do have a resident virii process running and you want to access any file
(via open()/fopen(), or simply via viewing this file in your file manager, editing it or accessing by any other means)
then this virii process tries to infect this file (which you want to open).
Some virii looks for format/extensions, some don't, so some virrii's infects only *.exe, some all files.
So some virii can infect mp3, some don't (not to destroy it, just add his body and so can add that blips and glitches).
See my point?

Hey so much "I'm leeter than you" attitude from some of your guys here, sorry....
No offence, of course, excuse me if I did.....
Cosmic Energy
So:
1) Run disk doctor first
2) Run antivirus software (kaspersky, norton (symantec) antivirus, etc) on all your logical drives
3) Do defragmentation

Don't run antivirus software before disk doctor to avoid system crashes because of reading possibly lost or bad sectors while running antivirus software.
Vert
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Originally posted by Cosmic Energy
hey halo I do understand and the ".doc" was just an example, look further please:
I even thought first to write smth like ".asdf" but wrote ".doc" because it's much more decent file extension, oknpexcuseme? :)
look
it's like was a long time ago in MS-DOS
if you do have a resident virii process running then when you want to access any file (via open()/fopen(), or simply via viewing this file in your file manager, editing it or accessing by any other means)
this virii process tries to infect this file which you want to open
some virii looks for format/extension, some don't, so some virrii's infects only *.exe, some all files
so some virii can infect mp3, some don't (not to destroy it, just add his body and so can add that blips and glitches)
see my point?

hey so much "I'm leeter than you" attitude from some of your guys here, sorry....
no offence, of course, excuse me if I did.....


If you want to look more intelligent, try using some punctuation... :rolleyes:

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Cosmic Energy
hey excuse me :D :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip:
it's capitalization by the way :)
Mossy
are the pops and scratches in the same place every time you play the mp3?

does this same error occour if played off another medium - differant partition, different soundcard (onboard vs external), etc etc

Try and eliminante every single 'possible' you have, then whats left should tell you whats causing it.

Wrench
I too, have noticed that MP3 files that I haven't played in a while tend to have new "pops" I won't even try to offer an explination, computers aren't really my thing. Unless they make a computer one day that's a turbo diesel, with intercooler and uses a 24 volt electrical system...now..that's a hell of a computer! *DROOL*

Anyway, back to the subject...you're not alone, i've seen MP3's go downhill, but no idea why..
dj prometheus
quote:
Originally posted by Cosmic Energy
hey excuse me :D :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip: :whip:
it's capitalization by the way :)

thats some funny $hit right there you guys crack me up sometimes.
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