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Can't make uplifting trance bassline... (pg. 2)
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| m0sh |
Well I use fruty...I can make different style basslines but I got problems with uplifting
I got VSTS Albino , Pro 53 , FM7 and so and so... |
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| atreyu |
| quote: | Originally posted by m0sh
Well I use fruty...I can make different style basslines but I got problems with uplifting
I got VSTS Albino , Pro 53 , FM7 and so and so... |
I've made very nice bassline sounds with Albino and Pro53. Download some patches and play around with them.
this place has some cool albino patches: http://www.arksun.co.uk/
click on releases and sound design |
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| Agent_X |
| u say ur using FL what synths are u using u can get some good sounds out of the "sytrus" synth damn fine piece of soft ware also comes with some preset "up lifiting" bass with it all u have to do is just make it sound less like a preset........and bobs ya uncle sorted |
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| kewlness |
Just because you have FL doesn't necessarily mean you have sytrus. You need to purchase it separately.
Basslines are very hard to do properly and it's not easy just to tell someone "this is how you make a bassline". It requires a lot of time experimenting, listening, and practice.
However, here are some tricks I use to make a "good sounding bassline":
- Layering: have several different basslines each taking up different frequencies and layer them together to make it sound beefy
- Stereo separation: make sure you don't have any (bassline should be mono)
- Patterns: Basically, the lower the frequency/pitch of the bassline, the less notes should be played. Subbass notes should be relatively simple while low-midrange notes should be the "rolling" part of the bassline
- Bass with kick: make sure the bass isn't played at the same beat as the kick unless it is in a different frequency range as the kick to avoid clipping at a frequency range and muddyness
- Compression: It is essential, master the art of compression.
- No reverb/chorus/delay/etc... : these are BAD as they play around with the bass frequencies, add unwanted stereo separation and make your bass not as tight and more muddy. |
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| Sebraa |
| quote: | Originally posted by kewlness
- No reverb/chorus/delay/etc... : these are BAD as they play around with the bass frequencies, add unwanted stereo separation and make your bass not as tight and more muddy. |
Don't know about the DELAY effect "kewlness"-> everything else is 100% correctly. Delay gives "rolling" but don't add too much.
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| DjSimonB |
| quote: | Originally posted by kewlness
- Bass with kick: make sure the bass isn't played at the same beat as the kick unless it is in a different frequency range as the kick to avoid clipping at a frequency range and muddyness
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But how are you meant to do that effectively? Most trance basslines I hear are a lot of notes, being played quite fast, so how can I avoid playing the bass on a kick? Apart from using a simple offbeat bassline, because that's too much of a hardtrance/hardhouse sound. |
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| thecYrus |
| he meant the sub-bass.. the mid-bass can play on top of a bassdrum.. |
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| DjSimonB |
| Ah well, my sub bass is on top of a kick too, it's just a one-bar-long note on the root of whatever chord it's on. I guess I should maybe change that before I end up blowing some speakers :p |
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| Aquascape |
| quote: | | No reverb/chorus/delay/etc... : these are BAD as they play around with the bass frequencies, add unwanted stereo separation and make your bass not as tight and more muddy. |
That's true if you don't know what you are doing with them. But quite often these effects are essential in creating that groovy bassline. You just need to know how to use them. |
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| kaymak |
Could anybody maybe post some compressor setting for a nice baselin, i've get everything else to a tee, eq, reverb, delay atc... but i cant get the hang of the compressor,
any help would be greatly appreciated,
thanks guys |
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| thecYrus |
| there are no default settings.. the compressoar has to be configured individual for each sound.. |
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| kewlness |
| quote: | Originally posted by DjSimonB
But how are you meant to do that effectively? Most trance basslines I hear are a lot of notes, being played quite fast, so how can I avoid playing the bass on a kick? Apart from using a simple offbeat bassline, because that's too much of a hardtrance/hardhouse sound. |
you can have the bass and the kick at the same time... as long as they don't share the same frequencies... which will easily fry your speakers if turned up loud and as well as being muddy
In uplifting, most of the time.. you have a rolling bassline that's around mid range which isn't really occupied by the kick which allows that bassline to occupy the spaces where the kick occurs with no trouble |
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