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Was it the DJ... or the music?
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| Yan |
This has been bugging me for a while now...
I've been listening to past sets of all various DJ's and I'm debating amongst myself whether or not I love the sets due to the DJ... or due to the music?
I think we can all agree on the fact that the older tunes are extremely class.
So what do you think it is that makes these old sets so undeniably good? |
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| Floorfiller |
| track selection....nuff said. |
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| Eduardo |
| Because then it was experimental. It was not done before so there was a very big terrain to play with. Now it is very difficult to come up with a geniuenely new idea. Also because of nostalgia |
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| diffusion |
Most sets I hear nowadays suck. They don't give me anything.
I don't follow the scene like I used to, but I do know when I'got a classy set. And most of todays sets are trash. |
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| bakimurad |
| it isn't DJs fault if productions are cheezy is it? most of em are not what they used to be but that's life... |
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| Streakfury |
I think that a lot of us think that the earlier sets are great compared to today because of the feelings you got when you listened to them. I sound like a bit of a stoner here, but back in the day, like Eduardo said, it was all very experimental. So when you heard a great set with new and unique tunes, it sounded great, and you forever associate those feelings and memories with those tunes. I guess it's harder to recreate those same experiences these days, with so many formula-following tunes being made.
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| trancebrat |
| The DJ first and foremost and then the music. Anyone can buy good music if they have the money and the access. Not everyone can walk into a room and just own it. Things the DJ has control over...track selection, connection & interaction with the crowd, energy/vibe/aura/personality/stage presence. They are all key elements. Add in venue and crowd...which is not really in the DJ's control, but some have the luxury to choose where to spin and they do have a following. You can take similar songs and play them at different times and create an entirely different mood. Some DJ's sets flow while others are all over the place. Some DJ's create a vibe while others kill it. Some DJ's know how to watch their room and they are there to create an experience. Other DJ's are there just to spin music and get paid. Who doesn't enjoy being around positive energy? Why do you think people love Ferry Corsten so much? He goes into every venue and puts his heart into his sets. He loves the music and his fans and it shows each time that he "performs". Someone else could try to spin a similar set to Ferry's, but it just wouldn't be the same without him going off behind the decks. |
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| [N]űk|ęű[Z] |
| quote: | Originally posted by bakimurad
it isn't DJs fault if productions are cheezy is it? most of em are not what they used to be but that's life... |
if the m usic isnt as good as it used to be, then the DJ should either A] start making better stuff for himself, to set a trend for others to follow B] stop DJing, for to continue spinning for the sake of it is simply money making and not heart felt... which to ppl that actually give a about the dance musics heritage is murder in the first.
back on track tho.. a dj is nothing without music as is music is nothing without a DJ....
consider this... old davey nobcheese from down the street, armed with record bag full or the hottest tunes and biggest anthems known to the genre, poorly mixed, no flow, no direction.. = no atmosphere = might as well stay in and watch re-runs of MTV party night. ..................... *or*..........................
one of the biggest DJ's known to the genre [lets just say PVD] armed with a record bag full of dolly parton 2 step remixs, i honestly dont think pvd would get anywhere with that....
........ for anyone that hasnt dont the maths yet/// paul van dyk + davey nobcheese from down the streets records = what we hear in any righteous club. |
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| YaleTrance |
| For me it's all about the DJ. I barely get individual tracks, I can't appreciate trance like that. The right timing, track placement, and style contrast can make any subpar track the perfect mood setter. Perfect example: Zombie Nation in Energy 2000. There's really no other way I could enjoy that track if it wasn't for that particular placement. Same goes for Sandstorm in Mayday 2000. Never heard Ferry or Armin do anything like that though, and that's one of the main reasons why I don't think they're in the same artistic level as Tiësto or PvD (that is just when talking about trance of course). |
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| UWM |
OMG you know Davey Nobcheese too? Where did you grow up!?!?!!111
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| AlphaStarred |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
track selection....nuff said. |
definitely...if the tracks are mint and the atmosphere is right the mixing is not always of much importance unless it's utterly terrible...all in all though, the dj likewise plays a big role in the order he/she plays the tracks to keep the crowd moving. |
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| Spin Doctor |
| quote: | Originally posted by bakimurad
it isn't DJs fault if productions are cheezy is it? most of em are not what they used to be but that's life... |
Yes it is! DJ’s are really “musical journalist”, it’s their job to track down the brilliant records. |
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