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First legal gay marriage takes place in USA (pg. 4)
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Floorfiller
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Originally posted by ShadoWolf
1) Natural law

2) 25,000 years of human history

3) God??? (depends who you ask)


now this is gonna get good...i'll sit back and watch the show...
ShadoWolf
Gay marriage isn't nearly as bad as gay adoption. Talk about ed up kids...
Floorfiller
quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
Gay marriage isn't nearly as bad as gay adoption. Talk about ed up kids...


see...now that i might agree with you on...
Orbax
quote:
Originally posted by TuanAnh213
why am i not the least bit surprised


Because youre a cynical atheist??
Boomer187
I thought the bible, er religion is the basis of marriage. so shouldn't they define it?

to be fair why don't we do away with the whole legal marriage thing for both gay and straights and save that for the church, then if yo uwant the legal status, you get something else, not a marriage, a civil union er something.

that way, gays aren't ruining the integrity of marriage, yet they can still have the same benifits er whatever they want. plus, married couples are still married, says the church.



or would that seperate church and state too much?
Orbax
quote:
Originally posted by Boomer187
I thought the bible, er religion is the basis of marriage. so shouldn't they define it?

to be fair why don't we do away with the whole legal marriage thing for both gay and straights and save that for the church, then if yo uwant the legal status, you get something else, not a marriage, a civil union er something.

that way, gays aren't ruining the integrity of marriage, yet they can still have the same benifits er whatever they want. plus, married couples are still married, says the church.



or would that seperate church and state too much?


totally agree.

Marriage has been, throughout the ages, man and wife. Its a sacred RELIGIOUS institution. You Secular people can get your own damn idea, like civil unions. You dont seem to understand that this is just as offensive as Marilyn Manson playing a pot smoking Jesus. Which, I was annoyed to read, most of you thought was a good idea :rolleyes: . anyways. If you expect Religious persons to keep the hell out of your lifestyle and not preach to you, dont you DARE come back at US and tell us to change our religion to include certain people so we are more "PC". Give me a ing break.

You guys are the biggest ing hypocrites ive gotten to see in a long time.
butterfly
quote:
Originally posted by ShadoWolf
1) Natural law

2) 25,000 years of human history

3) God??? (depends who you ask)


1) i can only agree with you on the natural law part in the sense that it doesnt support procreation, but being gay is also natural so you cant say that it is against natural law.

2) i dont know if 25000 is the right number but it would be really scariest to me if things like that were set in stone. people and things were meant to change and evolve. you cant be afraid of change. you have to embrace it.

3) this one isnt valid with me in any way, but that goes along with your thing about it depending who you ask.
Floorfiller
being a straight single (in the sense that i'm not married) in america...what the do i care? it doesn't mean i have to be gay. it doesn't affect my life in any way. the only thing i think it changes is a social recognition in business situations and the ability for one gay man to gain money from the other after a split...once again doesn't affect me.

so really, other than the religious issues mentioned, what do we really ing care?
Orbax
I dont care, and I think people should stop implying that I should. The only thing that bothers me is the intrusion into a religion. They dont want just civil unions, they want marriages, rings, wedding dresses, and a priest.

THATS what pisses me off. Its like saying that because Foreign Exchange students get to live in your house, now the Homeless people can too. It makes no sense.
meneedit
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Originally posted by nchs09
this is true. :( but they are so much fun to watch :p


lesbians fun to watch.... you daaaaamn straight. hehe you get it.... straight, hehe!



P.S.

die poo-pushers

butterfly
quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
I dont care, and I think people should stop implying that I should. The only thing that bothers me is the intrusion into a religion. They dont want just civil unions, they want marriages, rings, wedding dresses, and a priest.



i only want the ring and the dress. there is no way there will be any mention of religion in my wedding (if i have one). as for marriage, if you have true commitment in your life, marriage shouldn't be anything new.
Electronicapo1
quote:
Originally posted by Orbax
I dont care, and I think people should stop implying that I should. The only thing that bothers me is the intrusion into a religion. They dont want just civil unions, they want marriages, rings, wedding dresses, and a priest.

THATS what pisses me off. Its like saying that because Foreign Exchange students get to live in your house, now the Homeless people can too. It makes no sense.


If a church wants to marry two gays fine, if they dont its their ing right not to. Now if the government wont give homo and hetro sexual couples the same union rights then there is a big problem. And if the government denys churchs the right to performe some dumb ass ceremony then there is an even bigger problem. but im not sure witch problem the gays have.
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