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| Syeker |
I enter to the CD Reviews / New Releases Discussion section read the reviews and post a reply but all threads have something in common: everyone says that the tune doesn't bring anything new to the scene, if that's so then which rececnt tunes "bring something new to the scene"?
PS: I don't want you people getting all prog on me :p. |
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| Galapidate |
| Well to be honest, not much "new" has been going on in trance. |
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| Tranc3 |
I think people are, on the whole, getting tired of the forumla that's proved highly successful in the past few years. They're looking for more breakthrough tracks like the stuff Holden has been doing, things that are original. More and more people are resorting to "progressive" (I put that in quotes because, quite frankly, the name sucks) because it contains familiar elements, but uses a different formula.
Besides which, trance has always had this self-image of continual evolution, that is, every new track brings something new to the table and partly reshapes the sound of music.
Kinda makes you wonder what music would be like if the internet wasn't around or as big as it is - people wouldn't be listening to their favorite tracks and sets 24/7, they wouldn't have instant access to the newest stuff, and they probably wouldn't be complaining as much.
I personally believe that a majority of musical changes don't follow a puncuated equilibrium, that is, they don't happen all at once (which is something people seem to be expecting). It's unrealistic to expect an entire scene to change its' style overnight. I believe gradualism is more accurate in the music scene, at least nowadays. The major changes in the past 10-20 years within the electronica scene haven't been musical, they've been technical. It used to be that every few months you'd hear an entirely new kind of sound due to the continually evolving technology - something that was now possible, that wasn't ever possible before.
Nowadays, although synths are even more powerful than ever, I don't think that's what people are looking for. Sure you can get unheard-of sounds out of them, but I believe people have moved away from the "omg how did you get that sound" phase, and into something else. Technology has made us take many, many things for granted, so the appeal of new innovations isn't so much heralded as it is expected.
It used to be that we would work for the technology, now we have to make it work for us. I don't know what the new sound is going to be like, but I do know that it won't involve any technical innovations. |
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| Mr. Pink |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tranc3
It used to be that we would work for the technology, now we have to make it work for us. I don't know what the new sound is going to be like, but I do know that it won't involve any technical innovations. |
HERE HERE!!
i agree :) |
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| Zombie0729 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tranc3
I think people are, on the whole, getting tired of the forumla that's proved highly successful in the past few years. They're looking for more breakthrough tracks like the stuff Holden has been doing, things that are original. More and more people are resorting to "progressive" (I put that in quotes because, quite frankly, the name sucks) because it contains familiar elements, but uses a different formula.
Besides which, trance has always had this self-image of continual evolution, that is, every new track brings something new to the table and partly reshapes the sound of music.
Kinda makes you wonder what music would be like if the internet wasn't around or as big as it is - people wouldn't be listening to their favorite tracks and sets 24/7, they wouldn't have instant access to the newest stuff, and they probably wouldn't be complaining as much.
I personally believe that a majority of musical changes don't follow a puncuated equilibrium, that is, they don't happen all at once (which is something people seem to be expecting). It's unrealistic to expect an entire scene to change its' style overnight. I believe gradualism is more accurate in the music scene, at least nowadays. The major changes in the past 10-20 years within the electronica scene haven't been musical, they've been technical. It used to be that every few months you'd hear an entirely new kind of sound due to the continually evolving technology - something that was now possible, that wasn't ever possible before.
Nowadays, although synths are even more powerful than ever, I don't think that's what people are looking for. Sure you can get unheard-of sounds out of them, but I believe people have moved away from the "omg how did you get that sound" phase, and into something else. Technology has made us take many, many things for granted, so the appeal of new innovations isn't so much heralded as it is expected.
It used to be that we would work for the technology, now we have to make it work for us. I don't know what the new sound is going to be like, but I do know that it won't involve any technical innovations. |
really well put mate... |
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| Syeker |
| quote: | Originally posted by Tranc3
I think people are, on the whole, getting tired of the forumla that's proved highly successful in the past few years. They're looking for more breakthrough tracks like the stuff Holden has been doing, things that are original. More and more people are resorting to "progressive" (I put that in quotes because, quite frankly, the name sucks) because it contains familiar elements, but uses a different formula.
Besides which, trance has always had this self-image of continual evolution, that is, every new track brings something new to the table and partly reshapes the sound of music.
Kinda makes you wonder what music would be like if the internet wasn't around or as big as it is - people wouldn't be listening to their favorite tracks and sets 24/7, they wouldn't have instant access to the newest stuff, and they probably wouldn't be complaining as much.
I personally believe that a majority of musical changes don't follow a puncuated equilibrium, that is, they don't happen all at once (which is something people seem to be expecting). It's unrealistic to expect an entire scene to change its' style overnight. I believe gradualism is more accurate in the music scene, at least nowadays. The major changes in the past 10-20 years within the electronica scene haven't been musical, they've been technical. It used to be that every few months you'd hear an entirely new kind of sound due to the continually evolving technology - something that was now possible, that wasn't ever possible before.
Nowadays, although synths are even more powerful than ever, I don't think that's what people are looking for. Sure you can get unheard-of sounds out of them, but I believe people have moved away from the "omg how did you get that sound" phase, and into something else. Technology has made us take many, many things for granted, so the appeal of new innovations isn't so much heralded as it is expected.
It used to be that we would work for the technology, now we have to make it work for us. I don't know what the new sound is going to be like, but I do know that it won't involve any technical innovations. |
I understand that trance is still evolving and it will never stop but people always like a specifical track that is original or changing, for example: System F - Out Of The Blue or BT - Flaming June which for me are classics.
Nowdays i think is a lot harder to hear tunes that are surprising but i think that's the idea about trance you'll keep hearing it untill you find your new "classic" that's what i want people to expose in this thread :). |
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| aspergian |
I think there's a lot of negative talk that doesn't ultimately amount to much. Which I am thankful for. I want to have a good time without having parades everywhere rained on them -- and I can certainly respect other people's tastes in music although I don't listen to the same music they do.
Big tunes will have hooks, catchy melodies -- something memorable for sure that will be in your mind, heart, & soul many years from when you listened to it. Especially if it was played during a special time of your life.
If everyone who complained was actually put to work making their own personalized vision of music, we'd have a lot more busy people and a lot more richness and diversity out there. But often this is not the case -- and can not be the case for obvious reasons.
Trance needs its arpeggios as much as acid needs its 303s. :) |
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| DiMethGuy |
| quote: | Originally posted by Syeker
PS: I don't want you people getting all prog on me :p. |
:haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha: |
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| aspergian |
You know that movie Get Carter,
Well, I wonder if there'll be a
GET PROG
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