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Throw the Lieberal bums out (pg. 2)
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| charmscars |
| quote: | Originally posted by crazedcanuck
The Sun's or the Conservatives views aside, the Liberal's misconduct over the past few years in dealing with the US has hurt us badly. |
agreed. but i'd rather have a tarnished relationship w/ teh US due to some errors in judgement from members of the liberal party than have a conservative party in power that is sending our troops over there. |
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| Ukrainianstud |
Alright here is a question, if the liberals are out, who comes in (lets forget about a minority government and only focus at a majority)
Would you rather have a Tory Government? This party stands to make this country into another American state and widen the gap between rich and the poor. They support a two tier health care system, they support lowering taxes, and I know you might think this is good BUT it means less public facilities and more PRIVATE owned and run institutions. I know many of us are in University, so let’s look at the University system. Tuition costs in Ontario have increased by 70 percent since 1995, taking inflation into account. In 1998, tuition fees for professional programs, such as medicine, law, and computer animation, were deregulated. This has resulted in increases of 300 to 700 percent.
So what do you think this government would do to all other programs?
NDP? Well I support the NDP fully because they not only have the interest of the people at heart but also the environment. I know they will not have a majority Government until over half of Canadians have health problems resulting from pollution. I also believe that the NDP, even though they spend like drunken sailor and that taxes will have to go up, that this is the best party for Canada and every Province. They put money where it matters, like health care, education, environment and social programs. They do not favor the Private sector. Therefore NDP is the best candidate.
Green Party? Well I think they will be a threat in 50-70 years when our society will be more conscious of the environment. Until then we will just hear about them.
So what do I predict? I predict and Liberal Minority Government. I myself will vote liberal, because I would rather see another Liberal Government have more power then the Tories because NDP has no chance in my riding.<<<<
I would like to hear what you have to say to this Question. If not a Liberal government, then who and why? |
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| crazedcanuck |
Now, now, no what-if's :p
Still, you could also make the arguement that our constant presence in Afghanistan is only making it easier for the US to work in Iraq.
Not to mention having staging bases in Afghanistan must do the US wonders in their imperialistic designs on the region. Thanks to the Liberal's sending our troops there (in forest green camo no less), Dubya and Co have had a strategic foothold in the regiion. |
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| Ukrainianstud |
| quote: | Originally posted by crazedcanuck
Federal funding for health care is lower today than it was in 1994. Even with recent increases, the federal share of health care will have dropped from 50 per cent to 13 per cent. The result? No cash, no clout! Funding cuts have hurt the government's ability to enforce national standards.
National standards are weaker today than they were when the Liberals took office, and federal enforcement of the Canada Health Act is so weak, the Auditor General says they can no longer tell which provinces comply.
The cost of patented drugs rose 27 per cent last year, and today, drugs cost more than doctors, but there's no national pharmacare plan. And families need help to care for loved ones at home, but there's no national homecare plan.
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Now to understand these Results we must look at 2 things;
1) this was all done under a Liberal Government.
2) these numbers would be worse if the Tories would be in Power
Yes the Liberals are bad, but the Tories are worse and until NDP support rises, Liberals are my vote. |
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| charmscars |
| quote: | Originally posted by Ukrainianstud
Now to understand these Results we must look at 2 things;
1) this was all done under a Liberal Government.
2) these numbers would be worse if the Tories would be in Power
Yes the Liberals are bad, but the Tories are worse and until NDP support rises, Liberals are my vote. |
it's like a catch 22 tho. if you don't vote for the ndp but you like their politics the party will only further deplete, but if you don't vote for the liberals, the pc's have a better chance of getting in. |
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| ShadoWolf |
That was not a badly written editorial; anyone who thinks so doesn't like the substanitive content of it.
Anyway, why are we having an election now? This is all about what's best for the Lieberals, not for Canadians.
Lieberal values: corruption, "the ends justify the means," pork-barrel spending, fear-mongering, anti-Americanism, and waste.
That's NOT what Canada's about. Liberal values are NOT Canadian values.
Vote them out! There are plenty of alternatives to choose from. |
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| charmscars |
| quote: | Originally posted by ShadoWolf
That was not a badly written editorial; anyone who thinks so doesn't like the substanitive content of it.
Anyway, why are we having an election now? This is all about what's best for the Lieberals, not for Canadians.
Lieberal values: corruption, "the ends justify the means," pork-barrel spending, fear-mongering, anti-Americanism, and waste.
That's NOT what Canada's about. Liberal values are NOT Canadian values.
Vote them out! There are plenty of alternatives to choose from. |
if by 'substantive' you mean 'base' then yes... |
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| crazedcanuck |
| quote: | Originally posted by charmscars
if by 'substantive' you mean 'base' then yes... |
*chuckle*
I believe it was Chaomsky(sp?) that famously decreed "the medium IS the message". Unfortunately, although much stated was true, such delivery hinders it's viability. |
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| charmscars |
| quote: | Originally posted by crazedcanuck
*chuckle*
I believe it was Chaomsky(sp?) that famously decreed "the medium IS the message". Unfortunately, although much stated was true, such delivery hinders it's viability. |
that was Marshall McLuhan (he was a canadian btw)not Chomsky. |
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| ShadoWolf |
| quote: | Originally posted by crazedcanuck
Actually, the sun says
They certainly don't endorse the war here, and are quite correct that the manner Art Eggleton as well as some other MPs grandstanded and slagged the US and Bush(although I agreed with the assessments) are certainly not the way to manage your country's affairs. This cost Canada badly come Mad Cow and SARS. Ever wonder why they shut our beef out within a day, and no political rapport over the issue, which cost our economy billions. When I was in Detroit for DEMF, CNN had Toronto and SARS scrolling around the bottom every 43 seconds..as well as Mad Cow right behind it. |
http://www.teammartinsaid.ca/English/iraq.htm
“I really think Canada should get over to Iraq as quickly as possible,"
(Paul Martin, Prime Minister, North Bay Nugget, April 30, 2003) |
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| crazedcanuck |
| quote: | Originally posted by charmscars
that was Marshall McLuhan (he was a canadian btw)not Chomsky. |
Thanks Tara, I wrote a paper on McLuhan in school (I took Film and TV)
Too many years, and too many weekends have worn away what little capacity for storage I still have.. I save that space for basic motor function and hygene now. :crazy: |
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| charmscars |
| quote: | Originally posted by crazedcanuck
Thanks Tara, I wrote a paper on McLuhan in school (I took Film and TV)
Too many years, and too many weekends have worn away what little capacity for storage I still have.. I save that space for basic motor function and hygene now. :crazy: |
;) i hear ya: cultural theory is the first thing to go, as long as we remember which end of the toothrbrush to use, it'll be all good! |
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