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Which genres are easiest/hardest to mix? (pg. 3)
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basd
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Originally posted by Wildfir3
On some level i'd have to agree with you, since you should know some 'tricks/efx' to mix an entertaining techno session.

That does not go for all techno though, I tend to buy tracks that are entertaining enough by itself, tracks that tell a story in itself.. And they can still be classified as techno. With techno of the type that Marco 'a single loop is enough for 100 tracks' Bailey produces, the DJ has to add something special by himself. That doesn't make it harder to mix though, just makes it harder to let it be entertaining.

I don't really find it hard to mix (prog.) breaks, or offbeat techno either.. I would say that psytrance is a bit harder, although I have never tried it.
Busy Child
dnb can be the easiest and hardest. Theres so many different kinds.

i find hip hop to be the hardest to mix simply because im not talented to drop an instrumental and play around with the original etc. The vocals always gets me because i wanna mix, but i know im not suppose to cuz ppl wanna hear some scratchin and trixx.
Spin Doctor
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Originally posted by stevebutabi
techno is by far the hardest gendre to mix, but the most fun!


Depends on what you mean by mix! If you’re taking into consideration all the added extras you do in techno, back-cueing, efx etc then it can get quite tricky to get good, professional sounding results, but if your just on about bog standard beat mixing, then it’s incredibly easy.

I agree on the fun part though! :D
stevebutabi
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On some level i'd have to agree with you, since you should know some 'tricks/efx' to mix an entertaining techno session.

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Depends on what you mean by mix! If you’re taking into consideration all the added extras you do in techno, back-cueing, efx etc then it can get quite tricky to get good, professional sounding results, but if your just on about bog standard beat mixing, then it’s incredibly easy.



Oh yeah, if you're just talking about mixing one track into another, then it would be pretty easy! As you guys said though, a good techno dj is constantly using tricks and effects to make his set entertaining :) Carl Cox does some pretty increadible stuff...

Personally, after messing around with techno records, I find mixing prog and trance really easy;)


I actually just remembered one gendre that is even harder to mix than techno: swing house. It's house music based on swing jazz... my neighbor used to spin it all the time- DJ Pete's Sake (if you live in Miami you will hear of him soon).
audi0v0x
A kid can mix Markus style progressive. I'd say...ambient is one of the hardest. I mean, you can easily mix tracks together since its ambient, but making them flow together is something that takes skill.
Faj27
though i dont spin it, i found in the past that hard trance was hard to mix simply cause i never really had enough time to let the beatmatch work its own magic. unlike prog and techno, i can leave the crossfader in the middle for about a minute and play with the two tracks

groovin house is fuuuuuuuuuuuuun to mix
mmmm, me likes basslines
stevebutabi
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unlike prog and techno, i can leave the crossfader in the middle for about a minute and play with the two tracks


I always leave the fader in the middle, regardless of gendre, except when I'm messing around with tricks :)
YaleTrance
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Originally posted by aspergian
Brilliant classical musician once told me, playing slow can be so much harder because you have so much silence between the notes you have to fill with emotion!

I guess it depends, it's fair to say :)


That's definitely true. My best professors always say that.

Most of my friends in the edm scene are junglists, but the dumb bastards refuse to understand this hehehe.
Tranc3
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Originally posted by stevebutabi
I always leave the fader in the middle, regardless of gendre, except when I'm messing around with tricks :)


So are you a male or a female right now?
basd
quote:
Originally posted by stevebutabi
As you guys said though, a good techno dj is constantly using tricks and effects to make his set entertaining :)

I tend to disagree with that, not all techno is suitable for these tricks.. In harder techno, it is usually done and sounds good, but imo you really don't want someone scratching and doing efx over Knights of the Jaguar.

And to be honest, doing too much tricks (even in suitable tracks) can get soooo boring after a while, I once heard a techno demo mix from some bedroom DJ, who started freaking with efx from the first track on.. I couldn't listen to that for more than a few minutes.

aspergian
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Originally posted by YaleTrance
That's definitely true. My best professors always say that.

Most of my friends in the edm scene are junglists, but the dumb bastards refuse to understand this hehehe.



Thanks :). I can relate to you on the junglist friends' view part... which is why I like those DnB productions that halve tempos as a "trick" for part of the track, making things sound sparser like raw hip-hop, before doubling it up again.
aspergian
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Originally posted by basd
imo you really don't want someone scratching and doing efx over Knights of the Jaguar.


HAHAHA... LOL... have you heard the live version of that track, performed by a real band? I forget what it's called, but it sounded very close to the original. I'm not saying they should have gone all Grandmaster DST either, but your comment gave me a hilarious visual.

Angry Jeff Mills with big eyes would come out of a hidden room to strangle whoever was scratching. "Mad" Mike Banks would drop out of another trapdoor on the ceiling, and all heck would break loose :P
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