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Top 10 U.S. blunders in Iraq (pg. 2)
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| TrueToTheCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by ABTsportsline
i don't like the term "pro-war", as that is not the case.
I am just pro-america, pro-freedom, and pro-humane treatment of human beings. That being said, i do not condone all actions by the U.S. military in the POW camps in Iraq. I do, however, support the U.S. as a whole and their troops mission.
And last but not least, i support the decisions and actions of my commander in chief.
-ABT- |
Thats gotta be the biggest pile of horse i have ever heard.
2 be honest, i really dont give a , however if my prime minister ordered my country into a pointless war only to control some of the worlds largest deposits of oil, you can bet he's not going to get my support.
Bush is a fkn murderer and a part of the biggest corruption the US gov't has ever had. Im sure many years after his administration, the truth will surface. He is treating his citizens as if they are some sort of renewable resource. Young soldiers dying for a corrupt president. Please open your eyes.
Can someone please explain and substantiate how an improvished iraq with a dictator leader impacts the U.S. And dont tell me bush did it cause his heart bleeds for the unfortunate citizens of iraq.
Afghanistan mission i fully support.
One more question, Lets say a family member or good friend of your's dies while "serving his country" in Iraq (knock on wood), would you still stand tall and support your Commander and Chief???? |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by ABTsportsline
i don't like the term "pro-war", as that is not the case.
I am just pro-america, pro-freedom, and pro-humane treatment of human beings. That being said, i do not condone all actions by the U.S. military in the POW camps in Iraq. I do, however, support the U.S. as a whole and their troops mission.
And last but not least, i support the decisions and actions of my commander in chief.
-ABT- |
HAHAHAHHHHA
Yeah....support the decisions of a man who thinks god sent him to there to make these decision!
get real
Cant beleive the horse still being spewed by americans even after the shameful damage is done |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by emander
Do people generally post tripe here as fact like Cyrus or do they ever succintly state their opinions? |
go do a search.
youve only been registered for a couple days and you talk as if yuove been here for a while |
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| Boomer187 |
| quote: | Originally posted by emander
Do people generally post tripe here as fact like Cyrus or do they ever succintly state their opinions? |
actually I think he was asking us to comment on that article, like as in give our opinion of it, which I think you left yours out.
and blind support of someone because he is in office is not my thing. I like to think it out and decide for myself based on my limited knowledge whether he is a dick or not. |
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| BadBadNeil |
Where is all this mystery oil for us that everyone keeps talking about? Last time i checked our prices have INCREASED about 40 cents/gallon since the war.
We all know that Iraq is going to be a part of OPEC and the opec body will make the decisions where the oil goes and as of late its not going our way. Calling this a war for oil is such a cop-out. A lot of people around the world (businesses) are going to be rich when the economic revival happens in Iraq and be assured that every country in the world is jockying to get their companies in place when the handover occurs. |
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| Cyrus King |
| quote: | Originally posted by BadBadNeil
Where is all this mystery oil for us that everyone keeps talking about? Last time i checked our prices have INCREASED about 40 cents/gallon since the war.
We all know that Iraq is going to be a part of OPEC and the opec body will make the decisions where the oil goes and as of late its not going our way. Calling this a war for oil is such a cop-out. A lot of people around the world (businesses) are going to be rich when the economic revival happens in Iraq and be assured that every country in the world is jockying to get their companies in place when the handover occurs. |
Are you serious?? this war wasnt for oil????
I think you want to beleive this. Remember, its not that the US gets more oil after the war, its the fact that the US has CONTROL over it.. Big difference there |
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| TrueToTheCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by BadBadNeil
Where is all this mystery oil for us that everyone keeps talking about? Last time i checked our prices have INCREASED about 40 cents/gallon since the war.
We all know that Iraq is going to be a part of OPEC and the opec body will make the decisions where the oil goes. Calling this a war for oil is such a cop-out. A lot of people around the world (businesses) are going to be rich when the economic revival happens in Iraq and be assured that every country in the world is jockying to get their companies in place when the handover occurs. |
What puzzles me is the lack of knowledge in this whole oil price thing. The american dollar is weaker than what OPEC countries are use to selling at. Since Crude oil is sold in US dollars, they are going to raise the price to compensate.
My worry is, is that once the american dollar rises, we would have become acustom to these prices and crude oil will not drop down to the norm. |
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| TrueToTheCrew |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
Are you serious?? this war wasnt for oil????
I think you want to beleive this. Remember, its not that the US gets more oil after the war, its the fact that the US has CONTROL over it.. Big difference there |
Exactly, the "Iraqi" governing counsel will be the puppet and the US the puppet master. I can imagine for our entire life time, the US will expect Iraq to serve them, continualy reminding them that they liberated them. Just as they do with France.
When France refused to go to war in iraq, an american senator said "your welcome" to a french diplomat when he replied "no" when asked if he spoke German, insinuating that because of the US, they were liberated in WWII.
Just an FYI (not to take anyone's glory away), It was Royal Canadian infantry forces that broke through the german lines in france after many failed allied attempts. --> Thats kinda like canadians telling quebec to be thankfull we liberated their mother land. ;) |
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| BadBadNeil |
| quote: | Originally posted by TrueToTheCrew
Exactly, the "Iraqi" governing counsel will be the puppet and the US the puppet master. I can imagine for our entire life time, the US will expect Iraq to serve them, continualy reminding them that they liberated them. Just as they do with France.
When France refused to go to war in iraq, an american senator said "your welcome" to a french diplomat when he replied "no" when asked if he spoke German, insinuating that because of the US, they were liberated in WWII.
Just an FYI (not to take anyone's glory away), It was Royal Canadian infantry forces that broke through the german lines in france after many failed allied attempts. --> Thats kinda like canadians telling quebec to be thankfull we liberated their mother land. ;) |
I highly doubt it. Maybe in the next year you may see them being more willing to listen to the American Govt. but after elections and time they will be just like the Germans, Japanese, French, etc etc in that they have their own opinions and willingly disagree with us on issues they are opposed to.
As for the oil thing, I'm doing some reading on it, will get back to you guys ;) |
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| AnotherWay83 |
i dont think they went in just for the oil - its more complicated, IMO. i think they foresaw the coming oil crises, the impending world energy shortage and felt the need to have a US presence in Iraq, whose oil resources are second only to Saudi Arabia's, so that when the trouble comes the US will have secure access to the last remaining oil. thats my theory anyway.
then again, maybe its just a crazy president influenced by his greedy buddies who is primarily responsible for it all. i dunno. :stongue: |
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| occrider |
| quote: | Originally posted by Cyrus King
Are you serious?? this war wasnt for oil????
I think you want to beleive this. Remember, its not that the US gets more oil after the war, its the fact that the US has CONTROL over it.. Big difference there |
Actually, the oil is under the overall supervision of a multi-international body composed of the UN, world bank, imf, and most importantly the Arab Fund for Economic and Social Development.
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Just an FYI (not to take anyone's glory away), It was Royal Canadian infantry forces that broke through the german lines in france after many failed allied attempts. --> Thats kinda like canadians telling quebec to be thankfull we liberated their mother land.
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Out of curiosity, what battle are you referring to? |
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| Q5echo |
| quote: | Originally posted by TrueToTheCrew
Exactly, the "Iraqi" governing counsel will be the puppet and the US the puppet master. I can imagine for our entire life time, the US will expect Iraq to serve them, continualy reminding them that they liberated them. Just as they do with France. |
WRONG
| quote: | | hen France refused to go to war in iraq, an american senator said "your welcome" to a french diplomat when he replied "no" when asked if he spoke German, insinuating that because of the US, they were liberated in WWII. |
right. It was tom delay at a dinner party.
| quote: | | ust an FYI (not to take anyone's glory away), It was Royal Canadian infantry forces that broke through the german lines in france after many failed allied attempts. --> Thats kinda like canadians telling quebec to be thankfull we liberated their mother land. ;) |
WRONG |
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