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Lesbian Mums Depicted in Kids TV Show
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Reaction from conservative drongos refreshingly predictable:
| quote: | Angry family groups accused the ABC of using taxpayer money to indoctrinate toddlers in radical politics, effectively turning Play School into Gay School.
"I'm paying for it, every other parent in Australia is paying for it," Australian Family Association spokesman Bill Muehlenberg said.
"Taxpayers have the right to know their two or three-year-old kids can turn on Play School and get some basic learning skills without political indoctrination being rammed down their throats." |
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/co...255E421,00.html
Hard to believe that people could get so angry about normal human beings being depicted as normal human beings. Political indoctrination or a healthy, realistic view of the world as it is? |
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| Yoepus |
| who calls dibs on the first gay marraige to be broadcast on network TV? |
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| ambs |
| It seems that people want to leave television for things that seem unreal. and putting them face to face with the facts or what *could* very well happen scares them, if you ask me. Saying that a show or whatever is trying to push views on people is unrealistic. it seems people would rather live in a fantasy bubble where these things will never come near them rather than have their children have knowledge and understanding for "different" situations |
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| Shakka |
I'm not so sure the issue is about the content, but about the fact that it's controversial content to many and they don't want their tax dollars funding something that they view as controversial.
Actually lines up nicely with something on Hannity & Colmes last night. Philadelphia now has a TV ad, paid for in part by tax dollars, which seeks to invite gays to Philadelphia. The argument was not that the ad was wrong, but that if it's being paid for by tax dollars and it's controversial, then there will be some backlash. Hannity made a very good point that instead of just targeting one group for tourism purposes, it would make a lot more sense if they simply targeted all groups as potential tourists because it benefits all. Who cares if gay people go to Philadelphia? The point is that they should promote general tourism by all groups.
I don't care what people do in their private lives in the bedroom--it's none of my business. However when taxpayer dollars get diverted to special interest groups you start to walk that slippery slope. |
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| FuzzyGreen |
| You can butt in your bedroom, but don't use my money to pay for the bedroom that you butt in, and for gods sakes don't butt in front of me or my kid. |
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| Spankster |
| quote: | Originally posted by ambs
It seems that people want to leave television for things that seem unreal. and putting them face to face with the facts or what *could* very well happen scares them, if you ask me. Saying that a show or whatever is trying to push views on people is unrealistic. it seems people would rather live in a fantasy bubble where these things will never come near them rather than have their children have knowledge and understanding for "different" situations |
Unreal to me is a homosexual couple raising a child together. Sure it may happen if one of em has had a child in a past heterosexual adventure, and the other natural parent is unable/unwilling to raise their offspring but seriously this form of family is as rare as pig in a pharmaceutical factory when compared to the conventional socially accepted family.
There's no reason for homosexuality or any sexuality to be in the face of a 4 year old especially if it isnt a common occurrance. Kids can deal with homosexuality when theyre mature enough to make their own minds up. I dont want someone telling my kids its actually normal for a kid to have 2 mums or dads. I dont want any messages given to my child that homosexuality is normal.
Dont get me wrong cos when i have kids i'm not gonna preach hatred for gays to em but at the same time i'm not gonna tell my son its quite normal and acceptable to wanna suck ur mates dick!
Playskool is such a dissapointment for me atm. I grew up wanting to bone noni hazelhurst when i was 5(maybe not to that extreme but i did have a crush). |
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| arctic |
| quote: | Originally posted by Shakka
I don't care what people do in their private lives in the bedroom--it's none of my business. However when taxpayer dollars get diverted to special interest groups you start to walk that slippery slope. |
I'm not sure I agree with that. Exactly how many 'special interest groups' are there with regards to parenting combinations - and are there any with as many members as the gay community? If not, then I don't see how you can use that line of reasoning. To finish off, I present you with a admittedly idiotic parody of your above post. Pay no attention if it makes no sense. :p
'What people eat in their own homes is their own business - but when my tax dollars start to get diverted to pander to special interest groups (read: people who eat grass instead of nice normal vegetables), you start to walk that slippery slope!'
| quote: | Originally posted by FuzzyGreen
You can butt in your bedroom, but don't use my money to pay for the bedroom that you butt in, and for gods sakes don't butt in front of me or my kid. |
Out of curiosity, what does butting have to do with the depiction of two lesbians on a television show? :conf:
| quote: | Originally posted by Spankster
Unreal to me is a homosexual couple raising a child together. |
Sorry, but it is real - it happens, and it's going to continue to happen, with increasing frequency too. The show was simply depicting reality.
| quote: | | Sure it may happen if one of em has had a child in a past heterosexual adventure, and the other natural parent is unable/unwilling to raise their offspring but seriously this form of family is as rare as pig in a pharmaceutical factory when compared to the conventional socially accepted family. |
Have you read any ABS statistics recently? Not only are more and more gay people having kids, but the 'traditional family unit' that you speak of is fast disintegrating, and is fast on the way out.
| quote: | | There's no reason for homosexuality or any sexuality to be in the face of a 4 year old especially if it isnt a common occurrance. |
Out of curiosity, why shouldn't it be 'in the face of' a 4 year old?
| quote: | | Kids can deal with homosexuality when theyre mature enough to make their own minds up. |
In what way is this show preventing them from making their own minds up? :conf:
| quote: | | I dont want someone telling my kids its actually normal for a kid to have 2 mums or dads. |
First off, what exactly do you mean by normal? Secondly - this show isn't telling them that, it's simply showing them that it happens. As to whether young children are even capable of understanding what a lesbian is, I honestly don't know.
| quote: | | I dont want any messages given to my child that homosexuality is normal. |
Again, I'd like to know exactly what you mean by the word normal. I've seen people use it to mean that 'it happens', that 'it's alright and/or acceptable', and that 'the majority do it'.
| quote: | | Dont get me wrong cos when i have kids i'm not gonna preach hatred for gays to em |
Good to hear, as that's the impression that I'd gained after reading the first half of your post. Glad to see that I was wrong.
| quote: | | but at the same time i'm not gonna tell my son its quite normal and acceptable to wanna suck ur mates dick! |
Okay, in what way is it unacceptable? What, in your opinion, is bad/unacceptable about it?
| quote: | | Playskool is such a dissapointment for me atm. I grew up wanting to bone noni hazelhurst when i was 5(maybe not to that extreme but i did have a crush). |
Haha - I took the odd 'fancy' to some of the presenters as well. :haha: |
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| tathi |
i don't see the big deal..
thank god conservatives are not the status quo in australia |
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| Sand Leaper |
| quote: | Originally posted by arctic
Out of curiosity, what does butting have to do with the depiction of two lesbians on a television show? :conf:
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Just another twist to the alltime favourite "I don't hate gays, just don't bring that anywhere near me" I assume. |
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| narcism |
i think once again it has been blown out or proportion. Kids who watch this tv show are generally 3-5 personally i dont think a kid at this age can comprehend what was actually happening as the child said "this is me with my two mummies"
Now, if the child were to realise and say something along the lines of why does she have two mummies and the parents didnt want to tell the truth.
A simple solution would to say "one is the real mum, the other is the step mum."
Problem solved, no need to make a big deal out of it. |
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| Shakka |
| Lest we forget how impressionable young children are. |
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| Shakka |
| quote: | Originally posted by arctic
I'm not sure I agree with that. Exactly how many 'special interest groups' are there with regards to parenting combinations - and are there any with as many members as the gay community? If not, then I don't see how you can use that line of reasoning. To finish off, I present you with a admittedly idiotic parody of your above post. Pay no attention if it makes no sense. :p |
Easy, anytime a particular group is targeted, even if it's just 1 out of 5 possibilities(straight marriage, gay male union, gay female union, single mother, single father--did I miss anything besides transgender?), it's targeting a special interest. Look at how bad California's budget problem got. Hell, look at the U.S. deficit. Pandering to special interest groups is a big part of wasted tax dollars. If a private organization/individual wants to spend money on special interest, then by all means spend away. However, when tax dollars are diverted to special interests, the slippery slope comes into play.
| quote: | | 'What people eat in their own homes is their own business - but when my tax dollars start to get diverted to pander to special interest groups (read: people who eat grass instead of nice normal vegetables), you start to walk that slippery slope!' |
Sorry, I think you'll have to think of a better analogy. This one doesn't make any sense to me!:D |
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