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Rogers Hi-Speed Internet Extreme (pg. 2)
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| psychosomatica |
| HOHOHO. this may be time for my REconversion back to Rogers.. |
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| DigiNut |
So basically, Rogers is charging $40 more per month for the same service that every other cable company has offered since the beginning.
Cogeco in Kingston has uncapped uploads and I routinely have up to 800 K/s (that's about 6.4 Mbps) downloading at once. We're actually paying slightly less than $40 a month because it's offered as a bundle with their cable service.
I'm not sure about Shaw, but I know that majority of cable services across the U.S. provide the same speeds. Rogers, on the other hand, finally decided just a few days ago to call in their 10-year-old LanCity modems for upgrades (the manufacturer discontinued the units several years ago, slightly before they went out of business/changed ownership). I'm guessing it may have been because the service was going offline every single night for anywhere between 5 minutes and 2 hours, up to 3 or 4 times.
I *heart* monopolies. I wonder how a company like Rogers would hold up if they actually had any serious competition. All of the U.S. chain stores have invaded this country, why can't Comcast and Roadrunner do the same? |
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| OrZonE |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kytracid
Even the monthly rates don't change, so unless you really have something in mind for 80 bones, the change from 350 kb/s to 3mb/s download and 40 kb/s to 200-300 kb/s for upload is definately worth it.
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Are you saying you're getting 3MB/s transfer download, and 300kb/s upload? Because I highly doubt it, that equates to you having a connection of 24Mbs/2.4Mbs down/up. This certainly exceeds what they promised, and we all know that Rogers never promises less than they deliver.
I'm also curious whether they'll restrict bandwith on this service too, try to download 6Gigs a night for a week, see if they issue you a warning ;) |
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| Kytracid |
| quote: | Originally posted by OrZonE
Are you saying you're getting 3MB/s transfer download, and 300kb/s upload? Because I highly doubt it, that equates to you having a connection of 24Mbs/2.4Mbs down/up. This certainly exceeds what they promised, and we all know that Rogers never promises less than they deliver.
I'm also curious whether they'll restrict bandwith on this service too, try to download 6Gigs a night for a week, see if they issue you a warning ;) |
The 3 mb download and 300 upload is the number i was given by a Rogers representative when i picked up the modem. I was sceptical about it as well. As i stated in my earlier post, i got speed ( DCC connection ) of about 400 - 500 kb/s download and 100 - 150 kb/s upload. Mind you, i'm on a fast hub too ( less traffic ) so that will probably determine the speeds i get as well. As far as downloading quota, i'm not sure about that. Then again, unless you are using your computer as a dump site, i don't see why anyone would be downloading 6 gigs a night in the first place. I'm sharing my access with my roomate, and we both download quite a bit and haven't had any complaints in the last year, and i doubt that'll change. |
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| Prodigy Child |
| Anybody know if Telus has something similar to this? |
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| DigiNut |
| quote: | Originally posted by Kytracid
The 3 mb download and 300 upload is the number i was given by a Rogers representative when i picked up the modem. I was sceptical about it as well. As i stated in my earlier post, i got speed ( DCC connection ) of about 400 - 500 kb/s download and 100 - 150 kb/s upload. Mind you, i'm on a fast hub too ( less traffic ) so that will probably determine the speeds i get as well. As far as downloading quota, i'm not sure about that. Then again, unless you are using your computer as a dump site, i don't see why anyone would be downloading 6 gigs a night in the first place. I'm sharing my access with my roomate, and we both download quite a bit and haven't had any complaints in the last year, and i doubt that'll change. |
They're advertising a 5 megabit download and 800 kilobit upload. Divide those figures by 8 to get your absolute maximum transfer rates, whether you're talking about DCC or anywhere else, no matter how fast your hub is (and rest assured you will never achieve those rates with Rogers, ever). In this case, that's a 640 kb/s downstream pipe, and 100 kb/s upstream - still far less than what most other cable internet services are providing with their REGULAR packages. What's more, these are burst transfer rates and are not meant to reflect the average transmission rate on a long-running transfer (sort of like how amps and receivers claim to be "500 watts"). If you're seeing higher rates, it's either because of some kind of data compression or just an erroneous reading in the software (maybe something was cached).
As for downloading 6 gigs a night, why would anyone get their "extreme" hi-speed if not to download that much? With a 5 megabit connection, it should (supposedly) take precisely 164 minutes to download that much, or under 3 hours. So are you suggesting that it makes sense to cap the transfers at an amount that averages out to under 3 hours of full-speed downloads per night? That seems like a pretty pathetic deal - would you buy a car or a TV that carried surcharges if you made full use of it more than 3 hours a day? What about paying membership fees at a gym that charged you extra for staying more than 20 minutes? Isn't it the same thing?
The quality of high-speed internet in Ontario is one of my pet peeves, and I really can't express strongly enough my sentiments about Rogers' "services" being a glorified sack of horse . Truly, in all my experience, I have never seen an ISP be so utterly mis-managed, and they only get away with it because people put up with it. A long time ago people were threatening lawsuits and they really got on the ball with their service and improved it massively - now the public fury has died down and they're back to their old corner-cutting tricks again. I'd rather get DSL than Rogers cable - and I really, really hate DSL. |
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| SgtFoo |
good luck with your Rogers cable guys.... I heard it's still based on the same network principles as the original rogers cable internet. so eventually when every1 in your neighbourhood gets the extreme upgrade... you'll all be slow.
I'm enjoying the system upgrades that were adapted and put to use on the sympatico high speed system for free and without some of us knowing it!...the upload speeds may not have changed much, but the download speeds have jumped quite a bit!!!!! |
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| The Highroller |
rogers. I used to subscribe to their "service" and I would get disconnected sooooooooo many times everyday, and for prolonged periods of time.
There is no way, even if they do "promise" better service, that I would ever give another penny to that company. |
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| baystreetboi |
| quote: | Originally posted by DigiNut
[FONT=Tahoma][COLOR=#99CCEE]So basically, Rogers is charging $40 more per month for the same service that every other cable company has offered since the beginning.
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It's not an extra $40 / month. It's a one time fee of about $80 to buy the new DOCSIS modem, and the monthly service fee continues to be the same as the traditional Rogers High Speed. |
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| smuncky |
i dont no wat everyone is bitchin about
rogers is fine for me
the speed is nice and i dont get disconnected
the only time i had problems and disconnection was when they were doin upgrades in my area
and even taht was for 2-3 days, dont remember but its not long
if i had the extra $80 i would go for it in a heartbeat |
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| Trancewave |
Ok, rogers is definately doing some testing because something really ed up happened to me a few weeks ago.
This is gonna sound like I'm bullting you but I assure you I'm not. I was downloading a movie off DC++ (about 700mbs) , and when I connected to a user I noticed that my speed was a lot faster than usual. I still have the regular 3mb line and when it started downloading I couldn't believe what I saw. It downloaded at 15 MEGS PER SECOND!!!:eek: 15 FREAKING MB per second!! I downloaded the whole 700 mb file in less than 60 seconds!! :eek: :eek:
It was the weirdest thing as I saw my progress bar turning green almost instantly, I thought I was downloading a 1 mb mp3. I've been using rogers for years now and have never gotten anything over 370 kb/s. It stayed at close to 15MB/s consistently for the full minute. This was better than a wet dream! Sadly, lightning hasn't stuck twice yet.
Can anybody explain what just happened to me? I didn't believe all the stories about people finding ways to uncap their modem, but now I'm not too sure having witnessing it myself.:eek: |
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| ComandrStraker |
Hello everybody.
As Commander Straker I would like to call myself an expert on the subject.
You are very lucky if you can go to a rogers retail outlet and get a modem take it home, plug it in and actualy expect it to work.
Don't think that you can do your own cabling and expect the modem to go online. Below I will list a number of things you should know about getting a cable modem.
Good cable is the first thing you should be looking at. If your home has old cable or you are a part of the old shaw cable, most likly if rogers has not rebuilt you area it will have problems.
Just because the analog cable looks good on your TV it does not mean your cable is good.
If you buy a cable modem and take it home and it does not go online, call rogers and thay will send a tech to find fault and fix any problems the cabling has. Sometimes it will require the tech to bring in new wires and drill through an outside wall to the inside in order to bring the new cable in. Most ppl will not accept the wire being rapped arownd their home for esthetic reasons (TO BAD)
Most of the time the rogers service is bad because the consumer can not believe that it's their own home or the building thay live in that is at fault.
I know that homes, apartments and entire buildings are responsible for taking down whole areas (500 to 1000 modems and digital TV terminals) for hours till the tech's find the culprit that's causing the (yelling) noise in the cable, and disconnect them to restore service. Then it's also due to the amount of ppl cutting into the cable system and stealing service or it's the "I know how to connect my own cable" ppl. This will cause what they call feed back. Basically its like you are yelling and somebody else yelling back at you at the same level or higher, it will cancel you out. There might be some ppl out there who know about hooking up their own cable, if you do the only thing I can tell you is make sure you have the right tools, not electrical tape.
So for those that think rogers sucks, think again your cable might suck. Yes, it may be easier to blame rogers for bad service, but have you ever considered blaming the contractor that put the cable in your home/APT when it was built? I think not....but FYI you should know that Rogers is not the comapany that put the original cable wires inside your home wall--that was done by the construction company and property developer that built your home or apt.
As far as speeds, well it's true the more the slower; but that is true with all ISPs, DSL and other. The new 5MEG modem will not mean that downloading will be faster, but browsing the internet will be. With a terayon modem @ 3MEG it will get almost 2 Mbps on newsbin and it will get you a full 1400 MB in about 3 to 4 hr, it all depends where you are downloading from.
If you have any specific questions, just pm me and I will be happy to help.:D |
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