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so im sitting here thinking about friends.....
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SportTrance
ridiculously long post, but something im sure a lot of people on here can understand and may enjoy reading.....

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and though its crossed my mind millions of times before, this time, its really hit bottom....

for the first time, i have just officially accepted that I have some of the most boring, plain black and white, dreamless, mainstream, manufactured non-spontaneous robotic set of friends currently than I have ever had in the past.....grant it I keep in touch with good ole life long friends, but a majority of them are off in in school.....

the problem is im sitting here thinking about every single person I know and have known, and what they are doing......what they are doing now, what they plan on doing for the rest of their life, and what their goals and dreams are....and frankly, to me atleast, its a bit disturbing.

to this day I have not met one person who really has the drive and desire, like I do, to get the hell out of this town, to see the world, live elsewhere, and to enjoy life as much as possible....its not a crazy concept, and many people live this idea everday......

My friends have my respect, but there has and will always be this barrier fact, that if I was able to get away from this town, and leave behind every person i've ever known, I would do it, and not think twice. It has nothing to do with "making new friends", friends or no friends, im a very independent person, but it has something to do with living life.

I've seen a lot of places in my life and seen a lot of . Honestly, I think thats what seperates me from the people I know. I've seen too many people die, ive seen dreams get destroyed, ive seen people who have absolutely shut down, and on the other hand, ive seen people who truly are living it up. Infact, its all a major part of whats built my character and made me a better person. In a lot of ways, I believe this is what has set the barrier between me and my friends. I look at my friends and feel as if they have yet to get the wake-up call, and they may never receive it, which in a lot of ways can be bad. I have friends with money, and friends with absolutely no money, but theyre all so very alike. None of my friends are druggies, theyre productive people with jobs.

Sometimes, I think about my friends, and they, to me, resemble robots, machines designed to just go through life, wanting the typical things, and not asking for anything more. To me its like the people here have accepted what they have, and have no motivation to go any further. They question nothing. They just do. You're probably thinking, well, they must be happy therefore they dont want anything more, but this isnt exactly the case.

I'm sick of the materialistic idea people have, the idea that happiness is a BIG HOUSE and a NICE car, and everything else that comes with a price tag. I'm sick of seeing people pose, acting like theyre something their not, im sick of seeing people literally desperate for a laugh, im sick of seeing people settle, im sick of the lack of drive. I'm sick of seeing people who havent figured out who they really are. I'm sick of seeing followers, instead of leaders and people who cant think for themselves or find their own true hobbies. I'm sick of seeing people who have no real passion for anything. I understand that a lot of people are just plain LIKE THAT, thats who they are, and thats fine, but frankly, you get tired of being around it.

Sometimes, I think about where my life would be right now if my father never passed away at the age of 15, and frankly, I see myself right there next to everyone else. A naive, ignorant, robot that takes it all for granted, just like so many people I know. Perhaps this explains why there are so many middle-aged people out there with horrible regrets, that never got a chance to stop, realize, and question. I see reality biting older people in the ass everyday and it often shuts people down, sometimes for the rest of their life. They had something, then lost it, and never realized what they had, and they hate themselves everyday for not knowing it.

Now this all isnt anything new to me, nothing happened that made me decide to make this post, no one pissed me off, and im not one bit angry right now, its just a major observation. Overall, i've known all this for years, but its all starting to really become too real. I will always respect the fact that everyone has different opinions, views, goals,etc. and will do what they wish. Not everyone is going to be like me, ofcourse not, I just hope my friends will understand all this the day I do make the jump and move on with my life, cuz frankly, their idea of happiness and self-fulfillment is just too far from mine. To each his own, and as I always say "as long as youre happy".
Trancevision
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Originally posted by SportTrance
to this day I have not met one person who really has the drive and desire, like I do, to get the hell out of this town, to see the world, live elsewhere, and to enjoy life as much as possible....its not a crazy concept, and many people live this idea everday......


The only way is to explore world on your own. Years have passed since I got "my wake up call" but all I could do was finding my own ways, meeting new people and going to new places. If you have these ideas, dreaming of a better, a life less ordinary filled up with dreams, hopes and the powers of youth you make yourself suspicious for those,
who are to conservative to accept your visions. It seperates you from those who aren't aware of their feelings.

quote:
Originally posted by SportTrance

I'm sick of seeing people who havent figured out who they really are. I'm sick of seeing followers, instead of leaders and people who cant think for themselves or find their own true hobbies.


I know this feeling quite well. It can be frustrating to be aware of visions , hopes and dreams, which other people have surpressed or don't seem to have. Being young, being free, having lots of energies and visions, the desire to explore the world and life, meet people on another state of awareness, who are filled up with energy, which are enjoying life and act self confident and somehow indpentently.

Which are not influeced by those mainstream ideas.
Which don't laugh when they don't want to laugh.
Who care about their hopes and dreams.

People who can give you something ...for your life and your personal progress...

When I read your post, it really remembered me at my own situation years ago. I felt the way you do and reading your post remembered me at something I feared to loose. But I guess if you got a "wake up call" once, you'll keep on fulfilling your visions.:gsmile:

Trancevision
darkace
You sound like a real type-A. How old are you? Go to a big Uni and meet lots of other people like you.
th0m
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Originally posted by darkace
You sound like a real type-A. How old are you? Go to a big Uni and meet lots of other people like you.


Type-A? What's that?

Ontopic: Your story interested me a great bit, I'm sure I haven't gone through nearly as much as you have, I'm probably younger too, but I do see a lot of people around me clinching on to certain things, like they live at home while going to college, whereas I want to go away from my parents and my hometown because I have nothing that keeps me there. (Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike my parents, but they encourage me to live away from them as well)
SportTrance
quote:
Originally posted by darkace
You sound like a real type-A. How old are you? Go to a big Uni and meet lots of other people like you.


im 23, halfway through college

eh, but im not looking for new friends, im really just looking for an understanding of people in general, friends or not friends. Though I know ill never fully understand everyone.

The friends I have right now are pretty boring, and they know it, i tell em it everyday. But at this age, you can all maturely accept the differences, and still be friends, whether you have different hobbies, music, whatever. Its all irrelivant. Fact is ive met people just like me, we just never never became friends. Simple as that.

Do keep in mind, this is a mix of friends from highschool, friends i made after highschool, and so on. Infact, half the people I am friends with now, I didnt even know until after highschool, the other half is from highschool. Most of my close highschool friends took off for college. But this was all years ago.

The mistake I made in my post was that I categorized all my friends, and didnt really clarify that I was speaking about a certain few.

I guess the best thing to say is my current "balance" of friends is a little off. I've always had a well balance of wild friends, then on the other hand friends I chill with, and so on. Most of the people I keep in touch with now are working jobs, or with their parents, not going to school. They are the guys I have trouble understanding, and as I said, they know it. Has nothing to do with them not going to school either. Its their general goals in general that I have a hard time comprehending.

Half of my friends do have dreams and goals, theyre nothing like mine, but they do have them. Some of them cant concieve the idea of living here the rest of their life, while others can. Its just different ideas, ways of thinking.
SportTrance
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Originally posted by th0m
Type-A? What's that?

Ontopic: Your story interested me a great bit, I'm sure I haven't gone through nearly as much as you have, I'm probably younger too, but I do see a lot of people around me clinching on to certain things, like they live at home while going to college, whereas I want to go away from my parents and my hometown because I have nothing that keeps me there. (Don't get me wrong, I don't dislike my parents, but they encourage me to live away from them as well)


Its good to get out of the house and gain some independence, thats for sure. Just be sure youre going to college to get an education and to better yourself, not just to get away from home and party. I know people who are in their 4th year of college and still have zero signs of independence or real world experience, theyre still stuck in that "schooling" shelter. It turns out they just partied with their highschool friends, did their school work, i mean the same exact they did in highschool, only difference was this was college and they were AWAY from home.

Its sad cuz you run into these people 4 years later and realize this guy is still the same immature as he was in highschool.
darkace
Type A personality people are the "go getters," highly motivated and ambitious, work ethic, etc. Dreams.
Which isn't to say type B are lazy unmotivated unambitious slugs. Just more laid back in their approach.

^^my own operating definition, not to be used for any serious purpose...
goonerjack
"To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all." - Oscar Wilde
SportTrance
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Originally posted by goonerjack
"To live is the rarest thing in the world. Most people exist, that is all." - Oscar Wilde


I like that
Arbiter
Well, anywhere you go you will find that the majority of people live their lives in the pursuit of banal, meaningless goals which, even if they were to accomplish them, would leave them totally unfulfilled. But nowhere is this phenomenon more pronounced than in the United States, and it is not a coincidence.

I don't believe for a minute that this is some sort of inborn reflex: an instinct to pursue shallow goals. Rather, it is a learned behavior. And it shouldn't be difficult to see why so many people are learning it. From just about the time children are aware of the world around them, they are constantly bombarded with materialistic commercial imagery glorifying the value of possessions like a "big house" and "nice car," not to mention designer clothes, and a lifestyle where you "go out" (read - spend money) as much and as often as you can.

If you were a big corporation that wanted to make as much money as possible, would you want an intelligent, enterprising population of people with dreams and aspirations to obtain things that - gasp - money can't buy? Or would you rather have a bunch of "robots" who think the way to happiness in life involves putting as much of their cash in your pockets as possible? So natrually you'd take whatever steps you could to ensure people develop into the latter. And for the big media/entertainment industry, there are a lot of steps that can be taken.

Then, while kids are still learning the basics of the world you send them to public schools, where they can be taught the correct way to think. Oh, yeah, and they can learn that it's not OK to be different. That way, anyone who hasn't already been brainwashed by the entertainment business will be mocked, bullied, and "educated" into conforming with whatever trendy waste of money is the flavor of the day. And those with ideas that - heaven forbid - there might be more to life than buying as much you don't need as possible will quickly learn that they better keep their mouth shut, and they should probably re-evaluate their decision to actually think for themselves in an environment where blind acquiescence is not just "the way", but "the rule."

How many people are going to make it through all that with their individualism intact? Not many, and that's why it's hard to find interesting people if your idea of interesting isn't "wants a lot of money."

These people very much are robots, just made of biological parts: and they've been carefully engineered to be a means to an end, rather than an end in themselves.

It is... both a blessing and a curse to have avoiding falling victim to this yourself. You have kept open the possibility of living a genuinely meaningful life rather than serving as a shallow tool to further the materialistic hunger of the wealthy elite. But, you must also face the reality that there is little you can do to fix the problem. No matter where you go, the problem will still be there. You will meet people who once had all the potential in the world, and who have been reduced to mere automatons. If you are like me, you will experience a whole spectrum of emotions: anger, that this beautiful thing "human life" could be so perverted by people just for the sake of money, sadness that people who might otherwise have lived good lives are now miserable and yet seek to change nothing substantial, and nausea at the utter stupidity of a society which is a monument to everything shallow.

But there is also redemption in the knowledge that you are still free in this world, and there is great joy in finally finding someone who is worth your while. Our society - our "global society" is woefully sick, quite possibly beyond repair. Therefore, we must seek to transcend our society. In this, I wish you the best of luck.

Arbiter

Gunyouken
Dude I this past year have thought the exact same thing... All the friends I have are all doing exactly the same thing

Study
get a job
marry the gf or bf
get a promotion
get kids
take care of kids
buy presents for their kids kids.
Old age home
parkensons or some such
die

I am not like that at all
I cannot see myself going thru all that monotonous .

I plan on:
Going Rockclimbing at all the top spots in the world
Traveling Everywhere.
I'm very afraid of falling in love--- i've seen so many ambitions get blown to hell that way, but then again you just have to find the right one.

I'm currently saving up to buy decks and go skydiving... it's a bloody hard choice though on what to do first.

The day I lie on my death bed I wanna say "What the do you mean this thing can't fly!"
ShadoWolf
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