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| quote: | Originally posted by Boomer187
where the hell do people come up with these percentages.
Isn't that just a misquote. In fact what was meant to be said was that we only understand about 10% of what our brain does. We use it all, its just our investigative tools aren't advanced enough to know wtf we're doing.
can you be more specific with these events....like what time o day or night, was anyone with you, were you on any drugs (not just because of your nick), were these similiar to experiences people have told you before...like have the same thing happened there before? and did you know that before...
the mind is a wicked thing, and what you perceive in the 'real world' is just brain activity. So any random brain activity can appear as a 'real' event. thats the trouble, once we figure out our brain, then we can decide whether something is what it is claimed to be. |
I hate that quote ...
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Evidence Against the Ten-Percent Myth
The argument that psychic powers come from the unused majority of the brain is based on the logical fallacy of the argument from ignorance. In this fallacy, lack of proof for a position (or simply lack of information) is used to try to support a particular claim. Even if it were true that the vast majority of the human mind is unused (which it clearly is not), that fact in no way implies that any extra capacity could somehow give people paranormal powers. This fallacy pops up all the time in paranormal claims, and is especially prevalent among UFO proponents. For example: Two people see a strange light in the sky. The first, a UFO believer, says, "See there! Can you explain that?" The skeptic replies that no, he can't. The UFO believer is gleeful. "Ha! You don't know what it is, so it must be aliens!" he says, arguing from ignorance.
What follows are two of the reasons that the Ten-Percent story is suspect. (For a much more thorough and detailed analysis of the subject, see Barry Beyerstein's chapter in the 1999 book Mind Myths: Exploring Everyday Mysteries of the Mind.)
1) Brain imaging research techniques such as PET scans (positron emission tomography) and fMRI (functional magnetic resonance imaging) clearly show that the vast majority of the brain does not lie fallow. Indeed, although certain minor functions may use only a small part of the brain at one time, any sufficiently complex set of activities or thought patterns will indeed use many parts of the brain. Just as people don't use all of their muscle groups at one time, they also don't use all of their brain at once. For any given activity, such as eating, watching television, making love, or reading, you may use a few specific parts of your brain. Over the course of a whole day, however, just about all of the brain is used at one time or another.
2) The myth presupposes an extreme localization of functions in the brain. If the "used" or "necessary" parts of the brain were scattered all around the organ, that would imply that much of the brain is in fact necessary. But the myth implies that the "used" part of the brain is a discrete area, and the "unused" part is like an appendix or tonsil, taking up space but essentially unnecessary. But if all those parts of the brain are unused, removal or damage to the "unused" part of the brain should be minor or unnoticed. Yet people who have suffered head trauma, a stroke, or other brain injury are frequently severely impaired. Have you ever heard a doctor say, ". . . But luckily when that bullet entered his skull, it only damaged the 90 percent of his brain he didn't use"? Of course not.
Variants of the Ten-Percent Myth
The myth is not simply a static, misunderstood factoid. It has several forms, and this adaptability gives it a shelf life longer than lacquered Spam. In the basic form, the myth claims that years ago a scientist discovered that we indeed did use only ten percent of our brains. Another variant is that only ten percent of the brain had been mapped, and this in turn became misunderstood as ten percent used. A third variant was described earlier by Craig Karges. This view is that the brain is somehow divided neatly into two parts: the conscious mind which is used ten to twenty percent of the time (presumably at capacity); and the subconscious mind, where the remaining eighty to ninety percent of the brain is unused. This description betrays a profound misunderstanding of brain function research.
Part of the reason for the long life of the myth is that if one variant can be proven incorrect, the person who held the belief can simply shift the reason for his belief to another basis, while the belief itself stays intact. So, for example, if a person is shown that PET scans depict activity throughout the entire brain, he can still claim that, well, the ninety percent figure really referred to the subconscious mind, and therefore the Ten-Percent figure is still basically correct.
Regardless of the exact version heard, the myth is spread and repeated, by both the well-meaning and the deliberately deceptive. The belief that remains, then, is what Robert J. Samuelson termed a "psycho-fact, [a] belief that, though not supported by hard evidence, is taken as real because its constant repetition changes the way we experience life." People who don't know any better will repeat it over and over, until, like the admonition against swimming right after you eat, the claim is widely believed. ("Triumph of the Psycho-Fact," Newsweek, 9 May 1994.)
The origins of the myth are not at all clear. Beyerstein, of the Brain Behaviour Laboratory at Simon Fraser University in British Columbia, has traced it back to at least the early part of the century. A 1998 column in New Scientist magazine also suggested various roots, including Albert Einstein and Dale Carnegie ("Brain Drain"). It likely has a number of sources, principally misunderstood or misinterpreted legitimate scientific findings as well as self-help gurus.
The most powerful lure of the myth is probably the idea that we might develop psychic abilities, or at least gain a leg up on the competition by improving our memory or concentration. All this is available for the asking, the ads say, if we just tapped into our most incredible of organs, the brain. It is past time to put this myth to rest, although if it has survived at least a century so far, it will surely live on into the new millennium. Perhaps the best way to combat this chestnut is to reply to the speaker, when the myth is mentioned, "Oh? What part don't you use?"
http://www.snopes.com/science/stats/10percnt.htm
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| twisted420 |
| quote: | Originally posted by Floorfiller
its it that famous hotel in hollywood? ive heard you can see some ed up there..
i've never seen a ghost or anything like that, but i've been in some pretty ed up places where i was pretty freaked out.
one of my friends as a kid lived in this old ass house and it was ing creepy as . he said that he would see things or stuff like that and i never did, but that ing house gave me the creeps.
another one that i couldn't handle was this old 19th century hotel i visited that is still a hotel today. there are a lot of ghost stories about it and it was one of the most uncomfortable places i have ever been in.
so i've never seen anything, but when you're in a place like that...the mind plays games on you. |
same, ive been in some ed up places myself, me and some friends came back from a party a little bit across town, and we were all mostly tired as , only a couple of us had money, so we decided to walk. we had some weed left and thought it be a good idea to smoke the rest before we all went home, about half way home, were walking down this alley, and its like 3am at this point, we see this fairly big house all boarded up n , but the back door is open, i suggested we go there and smoke the rest of the weed, we go in and just look around, its ing pitch black so its creepy as . were all tryin to scare each other, and we go upstairs and someone starts yelling at the top of there lungs, not english or anyhting, its just screeching giberish, we took about half a second to our pants, and then we just tried run our way outta there as fast as we can, as soon as we got out we booked it, and just kept running until we could anymore..scared the outta me, its not paranormal, but it sure was ing scary:nervous: :eek:
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| teknoking |
| Ghosts defy the laws of physics and therefore can't exist |
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| AnonymousRacer |
Slylee, I've never read your sleep paralysis thread till now...
I'm guessing you were referring to the thread I made about a similar situation??
visitor in the night
So glad I haven't had a dream like that since... nor do I want to.
And as much as I want to not believe in ghosts, I've seen too many documentaries that say otherwise. And aliens... I hope they are real. There has to be life on other planets. Has to be... |
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| Mattsanity |
| I saw Hail Mary on the bathroom mirror. When it was 12 am, I turned off the bathroom lights and I said Hail Mary 5 times and she appeared. |
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| Ondrayce |
| quote: | Originally posted by Mattsanity
I saw Hail Mary on the bathroom mirror. When it was 12 am, I turned off the bathroom lights and I said Hail Mary 5 times and she appeared. |
How did you talk her out of killing you? Since you're still alive and all. |
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| Arbiter |
| What's supernatural about aliens? Wouldn't they just be "natural" beings from another planet? |
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| tall paul 2 |
http://paranormal.about.com/library...y/aa101402a.htm
http://paranormal.about.com/library...y/aa101402b.htm
quite freaky!
I believe in ghosts and have kind of seen one and heard about them in the building that i used to work in.
The old part of the building is over 200 years old and built right next to a church and from what ive been told used to be an old welding factory. Theres quite a lot of stories from things that have happened to employees in the building. Everyone knows about the ghosts and it is quite freaky to say the least.
Basically i worked in the basement of a clothes store where the clothes are all kept in aisles and ready to put out. I started work at 6am as thats when the clothes needed to be put out for the stores opening hours. I was in the old part of the building which actually burnt down about 150 years ago. 2 of my friends said that one day they went down to the boiler room which is next to mine and looked in and saw a man in overals working in there, which is unexplainable as there was noone working in the room on that day. Where i was, the aisles were quite narrow and the room gets really hot because there are no windows, and the air conditioning is really not that good. Ive known a few weird things to happen. For example once when i was working there i was in the back room, and the radio was on, but not that loud and i couldnt hear it in the back room. but this time the radio went up really loud, like full volume and as i noticed it i walked back to the radio, which went quite all of a sudden again. i called out but there was noone there, and not surprising as it was 6 in the morning. Another time i was there getting the clothes and i went really really cold, which freaked me out and made me leave the room. ive also seen flicks of light coming from the end of the aisles, like someone walking past or watching me.
The lady i worked with, whose about 50 worked overnight one night 8pm-8am, with about 4 other ladies as the following day was sales. As she was putting out the clothes, a man appeared at the end of the room, in the old part of the building and walked off around the corner.. this was when there was no men in the building.
The only other thing i heard about is this room, near to the canteen, which is now cordened off and black tape over the windows. noone is allowed in the room, because a member of staff looked through the windows once and saw a women in black floating up the stairs. They quit the same day.
All the human resources team know about the ghosts and i questioned them on it but they said that things rarely happen, although barely anyone came down to see me during the day, because they knew about the problem there is. Its quite freaky really, and just writing about it freaks me out. i mean, i always went to work thinking theres nothing there, but when u saw these flickers at the end of the aisles, was a bit weird and i normally wouldnt go back to the room for the day..
the story about the pressure on ure body while u were sleeping is very weird. god, dont think i would sleep in that room! |
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