|
Difference between workstations like the Fantom S and rackmounts like the JP8080?
|
View this Thread in Original format
| DeleriuM2K |
*I'm just getting into MIDI right now... trying to learn
other than the obvious lack of keyboard on the rackmounts...
I understand the workstation keyboard have basically hundreds of patches that can be used as do the the rackmounts, however the difference is that the rackmount have "purer" basic tones and more tweakability?
how about keyboards like the Roland V-Synth that has Virus style tweakability where you can take a nice pure sinewave and run it through a host of oscillators and CSMOS filters and such
I'm looking to start on production, just wondering which route to take. reading through this forum it seems like people look at keyboard synths like Triton and Fantom S or X as sampling even though some of the higher end ones can take a pure tone and tweak it from scratch
(I have a MIDI controller if I were to buy a rackmount)
thanks for any info
*dont be too hard on me :p |
|
|
| CynepMeH |
Well, here's what it comes down to:
- Use sampled sounds or
- Create your own sounds
Both are synths.... However, keep in mind that workstations are considered "all-in-one" type of solutions. Meaning, in theory, you should be able to produce an entire track with just a synth. the catch though, is learning the workstation ways of doing things.
nOw, take something like JP8080 - it has no sampled sounds, what it does have is Oscilators, LFO'S, filters, etc. What that means is that you are working with substractive synthesis, rather than samples.
A good analogy would be - samples are snapshots of sound with limited tweakability. Oscilator-generated sound is a paint, brushes, and canvas - you are in driver's seat.
Sure, you can tweak sounds on a workstation synth (like phantom, roland, etc) but your twakability is limited.
Let's not forget the pricepoint either. A jp8080 will set you back about 400 - 600. Something like fantom - 1700 -2000. As far as vsynth goes, it's another sample-based synth.
If I may make a suggestion, for your first synth - get a YAMAHA AN1X.
First, you're getting one of the most amazing synth for the dollar (they go for about $250 - $400). Second, you have 61 keys, touch and after touch sensitive. and Third - it's just a limitless synth for the money. One of the most underrated synth of all times. Here's what Solar Stone said about AN1x: "Now, this is a really good synth" - they used it for quite a few productions.
Oh, one other thing - my advise don't waste money on workstations, unless you need the built-in sequencer (that most people don't use, due to existance of better options like Cubase, etc), hard drive that you may not need, and overall just a sheer constraint of working.
So, that's my opinion... ;)
Oh, one more thing - my buddy does sound design for Virus and we had a discussion about workstations vs. synths and he brought up a great point - "VINTAGE VALUE". What that means is that with a workstation you're getting a glorified sampler/sequencer/etc. With a synth like JP8080, Jupiter, or any other VA/Real Analog you're getting something that will be timeless. Sure, the sounds may become dated in both but with VA you can tweak the sound into something new and have a new sound. With a workstation your options are constrained to what is inside or can be added via card. Why do you think people lust after 20+ year old synths? why do you think original Tritons (predecessor of triton studio) are cheap as dirt? Because you can accomplish most of the feats of workstation with a powerfull pc, sampling program, and some FX. Besides, rather spend your money on some decent sound card/monitor and something like JP8080/an1x than on just one piece of hardware that will be obsolete in about 2 - 3 years.
that's my H.0. ;) |
|
|
| Tranquil010 |
| beatifully put! |
|
|
| DeleriuM2K |
very useful post, thanks :D
I'll put it to use |
|
|
|
|
